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Offline The M

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Angel Under the Oak
« on: December 17, 2011, 04:30:48 PM »
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I was reminded of a question that came up at a recent tournament by this.

Can Angel Under the Oak exchange for a character that is already in play and discard that character that they exchange for immediately?
It was ruled that I could by ProfA, Hobbit, and everytribe, but I'm just making sure that I can.
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Re: Angel Under the Oak
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2011, 06:59:03 PM »
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You're exchanging for who now?
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Re: Angel Under the Oak
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2011, 07:10:14 PM »
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Some random judge.
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Re: Angel Under the Oak
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2011, 11:03:45 PM »
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Why are we discarding?  Is this a unique character situation?
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Re: Angel Under the Oak
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2011, 09:01:27 AM »
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Quote from: SomeKittens on December 17, 2011, 11:03:45 PM
Why are we discarding?  Is this a unique character situation?
Yes. Aren't all Judges unique characters?
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Re: Angel Under the Oak
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2011, 01:58:52 PM »
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Quote from: The M on December 18, 2011, 09:01:27 AM
Quote from: SomeKittens on December 17, 2011, 11:03:45 PM
Why are we discarding?  Is this a unique character situation?
Yes. Aren't all Judges unique characters?
Yes, but I can have Sampson in my territory and exchange for him without discarding.  I guess I don't understand the question. 
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Re: Angel Under the Oak
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2011, 02:12:18 PM »
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I believe his question was this:

Player 1 has Gideon in his territory. He then attacks with The Angel under the Oak and exchanges for a judge in deck. Can he exchange for another copy of Gideon from his deck and then immediately discard him?
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Re: Angel Under the Oak
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2011, 02:22:28 PM »
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I'm not sure why you felt the need to post another topic. My question is pretty much the exact same thing.
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Re: Angel Under the Oak
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2011, 03:00:50 PM »
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Quote from: Red Wing on December 18, 2011, 02:12:18 PM
I believe his question was this:

Player 1 has Gideon in his territory. He then attacks with The Angel under the Oak and exchanges for a judge in deck. Can he exchange for another copy of Gideon from his deck and then immediately discard him?
No.  You cannot use a SA to bring a new copy into battle.
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Re: Angel Under the Oak
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2011, 10:59:22 AM »
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The Angel Under the Oak (RA2)

Type: Hero Char. • Brigade: Silver • Ability: 8 / 8 • Class: None • Special Ability: You may draw 2 and exchange this Hero with a gold Judge in your hand, deck, territory, or discard pile. Protect Gideon from opponents. Cannot be negated. • Identifiers: OT Male Angel • Verse: Judges 6:11

Except if there is a may, then you may not.
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Re: Angel Under the Oak
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2011, 03:36:26 PM »
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Yes. The only time you are not able to create a duplicate unique character situation is in the case of banding, or playing from hand via game rule. Those are the ONLY exceptions.
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Re: Angel Under the Oak
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2011, 04:18:20 AM »
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and I was going to quote you on that from another post in like 2009 Polarius but i was wandering from where did the ruling come from?
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Re: Angel Under the Oak
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2011, 09:43:25 PM »
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I think 2009 is a good estimate of how long that's been the case officially. If it didn't make it into the new REG it should be there.
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