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Title: Angel Under the Oak
Post by: The M on December 17, 2011, 04:30:48 PM: I was reminded of a question that came up at a recent tournament by this (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/ruling-questions/samuel-29064/).

Can Angel Under the Oak exchange for a character that is already in play and discard that character that they exchange for immediately?
It was ruled that I could by ProfA, Hobbit, and everytribe, but I'm just making sure that I can.
Title: Re: Angel Under the Oak
Post by: SomeKittens on December 17, 2011, 06:59:03 PM: You're exchanging for who now?
Title: Re: Angel Under the Oak
Post by: Nameless on December 17, 2011, 07:10:14 PM: Some random judge.
Title: Re: Angel Under the Oak
Post by: SomeKittens on December 17, 2011, 11:03:45 PM: Why are we discarding? Is this a unique character situation?
Title: Re: Angel Under the Oak
Post by: The M on December 18, 2011, 09:01:27 AM: Quote from: SomeKittens on December 17, 2011, 11:03:45 PM
Why are we discarding? Is this a unique character situation?
Yes. Aren't all Judges unique characters?
Title: Re: Angel Under the Oak
Post by: SomeKittens on December 18, 2011, 01:58:52 PM: Quote from: The M on December 18, 2011, 09:01:27 AM
Quote from: SomeKittens on December 17, 2011, 11:03:45 PM
Why are we discarding? Is this a unique character situation?
Yes. Aren't all Judges unique characters?
Yes, but I can have Sampson in my territory and exchange for him without discarding. I guess I don't understand the question.
Title: Re: Angel Under the Oak
Post by: Red Wing on December 18, 2011, 02:12:18 PM: I believe his question was this:

Player 1 has Gideon in his territory. He then attacks with The Angel under the Oak and exchanges for a judge in deck. Can he exchange for another copy of Gideon from his deck and then immediately discard him?
Title: Re: Angel Under the Oak
Post by: Chronic Apathy on December 18, 2011, 02:22:28 PM: I'm not sure why you felt the need to post another topic. My question is pretty much the exact same thing.
Title: Re: Angel Under the Oak
Post by: SomeKittens on December 18, 2011, 03:00:50 PM: Quote from: Red Wing on December 18, 2011, 02:12:18 PM
I believe his question was this:

Player 1 has Gideon in his territory. He then attacks with The Angel under the Oak and exchanges for a judge in deck. Can he exchange for another copy of Gideon from his deck and then immediately discard him?
No. You cannot use a SA to bring a new copy into battle.
Title: Re: Angel Under the Oak
Post by: STAMP on December 19, 2011, 10:59:22 AM: The Angel Under the Oak (RA2)

Type: Hero Char. • Brigade: Silver • Ability: 8 / 8 • Class: None • Special Ability: You may draw 2 and exchange this Hero with a gold Judge in your hand, deck, territory, or discard pile. Protect Gideon from opponents. Cannot be negated. • Identifiers: OT Male Angel • Verse: Judges 6:11

Except if there is a may, then you may not. (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/ruling-questions/samuel-29064/msg454204/#msg454204)
Title: Re: Angel Under the Oak
Post by: Minister Polarius on December 19, 2011, 03:36:26 PM: Yes. The only time you are not able to create a duplicate unique character situation is in the case of banding, or playing from hand via game rule. Those are the ONLY exceptions.
Title: Re: Angel Under the Oak
Post by: RTSmaniac on December 21, 2011, 04:18:20 AM: and I was going to quote you on that from another post in like 2009 Polarius but i was wandering from where did the ruling come from?
Title: Re: Angel Under the Oak
Post by: Minister Polarius on December 22, 2011, 09:43:25 PM: I think 2009 is a good estimate of how long that's been the case officially. If it didn't make it into the new REG it should be there.