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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: Rawrlolsauce! on February 19, 2011, 07:27:10 PM
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I RA with some random hero. Can I add two sites to battle? I didn't see anything in the REG about it, but I only looked for about 25 seconds.
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i would say you can add as many sites as you want.
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I see no reason you couldn't. Say you push one in for access, soul gets buried, add another!
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i would say you can add as many sites as you want.
I agree.
Similar question, are EC's allowed to add sites to battle? ::)
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No, I got that ruled at nationals. I tried to give my opponent access in order to add my site guard.
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don't think i can have 2 sites tried using ends of the earth for acsess after having pushed nazerath into battle at ny tourney recently and got told no by roy
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Gabe said yes.
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Gabe said yes.
The REG (http://www.redemptionreg.com/REG/default.htm?turl=howtouse.htm) said yes.
Sites must be placed in the Field of Battle to gain access to your opponent’s sites. Multiple sites may be used. Site access cards in battle may not be removed prior to the battle resolution unless forced or allowed by another card.
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I agree with
Gabe...the REG :)
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GRR REYZEN GRRR
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GRR REYZEN GRRR
You and I both know that our brother Roy does the absolute best job he can. :)
I make ruling mistakes all the time at live tournaments. It's so much easier sitting here with the REG at my fingertips. :P
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isnt it recommended that judges have the REG available?
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isnt it recommended that judges have the REG available?
I always have the REG handy on the computer, Mike. Matt was just as obedient and respectful to my judging as ever. That is how 'iive' mistakes are made. Sorry, Matt. :)
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its ok im just gonna remember for next time
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I agree with Roys ruling. You put sites into battle to gain acess to a lost soul, not so you can nagate the special ability on a site. The regs says you can use multiple sites meaning if one gets discarded or taken you can add another on for access. I don't think you should be allowed to put sites into battle if its not for site acess. That is not the intent of the reg entry.
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Intent really doesn't matter. As it reads now, you can. If they decide to change it because they intend it to be different, now they can. I really like this ruling.
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Hey Bill, what's the intent of Split Altar? :D
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Intent really doesn't matter. As it reads now, you can. If they decide to change it because they intend it to be different, now they can. I really like this ruling.
Sure it does. Just like how you need to look at intent when you read the Constitution.
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Regs written years ago is alot different than a card rwrongly written.
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Regs written years ago is alot different than a card rwrongly written.
+1. Split Alter does not apply here.
I believe Gabe quoted the new REG.
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i quite frankly like being able to shut off nazerath by shoving it into battle lol
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The cost of putting Nazareth in your deck is that you can't search. Its pretty cheeap if you can just shove it into battle not for site access but just to avoid the cost.
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I believe Gabe quoted the new REG.
I quoted the old REG that was written years ago.
Bill is older and wiser than all of us combined. He's earned the right to interpret things however he would like. :)
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lol cheap or not as i read it now i can and will continue to do so lol
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Bill is older and wiser than all of us combined. He's earned the right to interpret things however he would like. :)
That dosen't mean i'm right. Thats why I'm looking forward to the type 2 tournament. With about six elders present we can hash things out in person.
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Only 6, I heard that we were flying all 15 in. Making it the annual Elder summit.
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lol if thats happening can we manage a reg by the end of the tourney lol ;D ;D ;D
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Justin, Jordan, Gabe, Tim, RDT (for some reason it seems weird to call you John), Eric, and Chris. Which one isn't coming? (Chris? I don't seem to remember him there)
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Yeah, I highly doubt Chris will be there.
I'm only going to be there friday myself.
Kevin is another elder who could come - I don't know if Gabe convinced him to or not.
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Eric's not coming. I think Chris is.
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That is not the intent of the reg entry.
But intent doesn't matter unless it breaks the game. And it doesn't break the game to let people bring in sites so that their SA's don't work. I agree that it seems kinda cheap, but it is legal. It also makes their sites more vulnerable to a nice Joseph in Prison or Achan's Sin or Deluge of Rain or something fun like that :)
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Final Ruling?
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We've had two elders say you can, with no (elder) dissent.
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Final Ruling?
You can add as many sites to battle as you like.
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That is not the intent of the reg entry.
But intent doesn't matter unless it breaks the game. And it doesn't break the game to let people bring in sites so that their SA's don't work.
Can someone point me to a reference for the claim that the SA on sites do not work when the site is in battle?
If pushing a site into battle negates its SA does that mean that OT characters can use The Ends of the Earth for access, or that Dragon Raid will never discard evil cards on a site, or...?
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Single color sites only have their ability active outside of battle. Multicolor, only in battle.
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Reference please?
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Special abilities on sites are not affected by character or enhancement cards. They are mainly used offensively as “access sites” and therefore their special abilities are written to take effect when they enter battle and at no other time. All the single color sites are mainly used defensively as “lost soul sites”. The special abilities on single color sites are written to take effect when they are holding a lost soul. Therefore, if you are using an “access site” defensively or a “lost soul site” offensively the special abilities don’t activate.
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Thanks. I knew that the requirement to hold a LS had changed--but I forgot about the in battle part.