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Adding a site to battle
« on: December 22, 2010, 05:30:24 PM »
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Can you add a site to battle (you are rescuing) even if you don't need it for access?

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Re: Adding a site to battle
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2010, 05:37:26 PM »
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I don't see why not, but why would you need to.
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Re: Adding a site to battle
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2010, 05:48:19 PM »
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Entering battle, single color sites special ablities don't work, So I can make Nazareth turn off while I search with a hero, then it should turn back on after the battle against my opponent.

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Re: Adding a site to battle
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2010, 07:20:26 PM »
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Can you add a site to battle (you are rescuing) even if you don't need it for access?

Thanks!

Yes, that is my understanding.

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Re: Adding a site to battle
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2010, 07:37:04 PM »
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Entering battle, single color sites special ablities don't work, So I can make Nazareth turn off while I search with a hero, then it should turn back on after the battle against my opponent.

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Re: Adding a site to battle
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2010, 10:54:59 PM »
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Entering battle, single color sites special ablities don't work, ...

Why would Nazareth's ability not work while in battle?
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Re: Adding a site to battle
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2010, 11:26:46 PM »
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Entering battle, single color sites special ablities don't work, ...

Why would Nazareth's ability not work while in battle?

I found this in the REG

Quote from: REG=topic=24829.msg391977#msg391977 date=1293076499

All the single color sites are mainly used defensively as “lost soul sites”.  The special abilities on single color sites are written to take effect when they are holding a lost soul.  Therefore, if you are using an “access site” defensively or a “lost soul site” offensively the special abilities don’t activate.


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Re: Adding a site to battle
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2010, 11:54:26 PM »
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based on that, must sites have a lost soul to activate the SA? and if that's true, do the SA's immediately de-activate when one is rescued?
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Re: Adding a site to battle
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2010, 11:59:18 PM »
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based on that, must sites have a lost soul to activate the SA? and if that's true, do the SA's immediately de-activate when one is rescued?

With the addition of these new sites, that part of the REG is outdated.

Also, you cant add a site into battle before a hero's SA activates.

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Re: Adding a site to battle
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2010, 12:05:26 AM »
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can you add a site at any time?
can you add multiple sites?
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Re: Adding a site to battle
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2010, 12:17:58 AM »
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I would say yes and yes
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Re: Adding a site to battle
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2010, 12:25:46 AM »
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Re: Adding a site to battle
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2010, 12:31:06 AM »
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why not?
i mean you couldnt insert sites into battle in the middle of another ability trying to resolve, but other than that...
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Re: Adding a site to battle
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2010, 12:52:02 AM »
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Sites can enter battle simultaneously with Heroes. There hasn't been firm resolution on if/how this would allow a Hero with a search ability to work if Nazareth were presented. Sites can be added at any time, but only from territory. You can add as many Sites as you want. Single-Color Sites are active while in territory and multi-color Sites are active in battle (the REG is wrong). I think that wraps up the latest batch of site confusion on this thread.
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Re: Adding a site to battle
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2010, 12:56:33 AM »
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Sites can enter battle simultaneously with Heroes.

this doesnt sound right to me.
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Re: Adding a site to battle
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2010, 09:07:25 AM »
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Wait, so the REG says that single-color site SAs are active only when they are occupied, but that is outdated and should be ignored. However, the REG also says that single-color site SAs are not active in battle, but that should not be ignored. How exactly am I supposed to know which entry to believe?

Frankly, if single-color sites do not need to be occupied to be active, then being in battle or in territory should not make a difference. Since the REG is continuing its updates, I think we need to make a more consistent default for sites, especially with the new sites that have come out in the latest sets.
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Re: Adding a site to battle
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2010, 10:34:12 AM »
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Wait, so the REG says that single-color site SAs are active only when they are occupied, but that is outdated and should be ignored. However, the REG also says that single-color site SAs are not active in battle, but that should not be ignored. How exactly am I supposed to know which entry to believe?

Frankly, if single-color sites do not need to be occupied to be active, then being in battle or in territory should not make a difference. Since the REG is continuing its updates, I think we need to make a more consistent default for sites, especially with the new sites that have come out in the latest sets.

+1 I request that sites be fixed in The OFFICIAL REG CORRECTION THREAD.  That way we hosts have a quick reference.
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Re: Adding a site to battle
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2010, 11:59:33 AM »
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Since the REG is continuing its updates, I think we need to make a more consistent default for sites, especially with the new sites that have come out in the latest sets.
Um, that is the new, consistent default for Sites. It's in the new rules thread and only went into effect in Di.
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Re: Adding a site to battle
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2010, 12:04:23 PM »
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Since the REG is continuing its updates, I think we need to make a more consistent default for sites, especially with the new sites that have come out in the latest sets.
Um, that is the new, consistent default for Sites. It's in the new rules thread and only went into effect in Di.

Could you point me to that thread? I just looked in two "New Rulings" threads (which is silly in itself) and found nothing about sites.
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Re: Adding a site to battle
« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2010, 12:14:49 PM »
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Well fancy that, it's not there. I could have sworn there was an announcement thread. Needs to be added to the REG updates thread.
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Re: Adding a site to battle
« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2010, 12:15:55 PM »
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Well fancy that, it's not there. I could have sworn there was an announcement thread. Needs to be added to the REG updates thread.

I just wanted to be sure it wasn't just me (as is usually the case  ;)  ).
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Re: Adding a site to battle
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2010, 03:27:57 PM »
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Sites can enter battle simultaneously with Heroes. There hasn't been firm resolution on if/how this would allow a Hero with a search ability to work if Nazareth were presented. Sites can be added at any time, but only from territory. You can add as many Sites as you want. Single-Color Sites are active while in territory and multi-color Sites are active in battle (the REG is wrong). I think that wraps up the latest batch of site confusion on this thread.

The above is essentially correct. We will work on clarifying/finalizing this and getting it in the REG update thread.

These rules are for sure:
*Single-color Sites are always active in territory (occupied or not--though some only trigger upon certain conditions) and cease to be active once they enter battle.
*Multi-color Sites are not active in territory and activate once they enter battle, but after Hero abilities are completed (if they are put into battle at the same time).

This rule is being discussed (and we are leaning towards implementing it):
*Sites can be presented in battle simultaneously with a Hero thereby allowing combos such as a Hero with a search ability to rescue with Nazareth and use his ability.



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Re: Adding a site to battle
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2010, 03:42:18 PM »
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That last one cannot be a rule as written. A Site would have to be in battle before the Hero.
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Re: Adding a site to battle
« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2010, 05:27:51 PM »
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*Multi-color Sites are not active in territory and activate once they enter battle, but after Hero abilities are completed (if they are put into battle at the same time).

This doesn't make any sense.
This severely inhibits most if not all access sites!
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Re: Adding a site to battle
« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2010, 05:49:49 PM »
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*Multi-color Sites are not active in territory and activate once they enter battle, but after Hero abilities are completed (if they are put into battle at the same time).

This doesn't make any sense.
This severely inhibits most if not all access sites!

No it doesn't.

 


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