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(Let me preface this before the hailstorm of upheaval begins as in the "Wool Fleece" thread: I play the game and have for quite some time. I am not an Elder. I am not an authority. However, I am a consumer of this product, and I am insightful.)

The Story:I was playing a game with a fellow "Redemptioner" and I played a card. Someone told me the card is not played the way it is written or explained in the REG and that the REG was not up to date nor was the rulebook (basically said they were invalid). Before I played this game, I read the Rulebook and the REG on the cards I put in my deck assuming that it was correct.

The Observation: Someone told me that rulings from the Elders made the REG and Rulebook invalid and directed me to ask the Elders, which in the middle of the game which made the game very annoying to play and consumed time while playing the game. Also, not saying that my opponent did this, someone could be dishonest in the middle of a game and without a quick response, someone could get cheated. (before I get a litany of responses, please don't make this an issue as this is my observation.)

The Suggestion: If rulings are going to be made outside of the Rulebook and REG, please make readily available the rulings in an easy and quick manner (such as the Rulebook and REG). This will avoid controversy and frustration and threads like "Wool Fleece". Just a suggestion.

Let me guess. Was it Split Altar, or ANB? 

Let me start out by saying that this is NOT by any means a complaint or flame, just my thoughts on this.

I have to agree 100% with SelfEvident, it's quite frustrating when a card works differently than the wording on the card, and the reg, and the massively outdated rulebook don't have an answer. I know it's easy to just ask a judge, which is fine midgame, but I think it would be nice to know that my cards or my opponents cards work slightly differently than the way they're read.

Gabe, while I definitely appreciate both of those forums, I wouldn't say that answers to a lot of questions are "readily available in a quick and easy manner" like SelfEvident suggested. I don't always have the time to sort through pages of threads to find what may or may not be the answer I'm looking for.

Now this may not be as big of a problem for long time players, but the learning curve for new players is pretty ridiculous. I personally don't have the answer to this, but I do think that it may need to be discussed, and I'm sure plenty of people would be willing to help however they can.

Would it be possible/practical for someone to make like a PDF out of all the ruling changes in those threads (or just all rulings that update the rulebook and/or REG) that people could download and either have on their computer at a tourney or print out for use? An on-computer pdf file would be searchable, too, so it would be simple enough to find rulings for a specific card, etc.

Just my since I know I've been arguing the "the new REG is coming, just wait it out" side and people might not think I really care.

I'd be willing to make it/help with it if people would be interested in it.

While I can't help, I love the idea.  Perhaps a hosting "cheat sheet" that has global ideas  that can be used for quick reference.

Alright, I'll start working on them. Any specific things that should be in the cheat sheet? I'm thinking that'll be a more overall thing with general ideas and then the specific ruling-per-card pdf can be separate.

This is WAY MORE CONSTRUCTIVE. Thank you! And I truly mean that.

And all of the Elder's personal phone numbers and addresses.

Specific examples would also be useful for the more confusing rulings.

When you are done with it, send it to an elder and we'll argue about it on the super-special-secret boards, then forget about it for a year.

Fixed.

That's a modified version of Bryon's post just a few posts before his.

Here is the actual post:

When you are done with it, send it to an elder and we'll modify anything that needs it, then rubber stamp it.

That's a modified version of Bryon's post just a few posts before his.

Here is the actual post:

Quote from: Bryon on June 28, 2011, 08:03:57 PM

When you are done with it, send it to an elder and we'll modify anything that needs it, then rubber stamp it.

I was currious thought it might have come from another thread?

Nope. Quoting someone, modifying his or her post, and typing the word "Fixed." is a common way of expressing one's own opinion on the matter in a tongue-in-cheek way.  And by the way, everyone should know that the Prof Underwood is the real prof, and I'm just the "other Prof".

Fixed.  I can't believe people would do such a thing.  How could they live with themselves?