Author Topic: A smattering of questions ... (Read 3177 times)

Korunks · « **on:** December 19, 2009, 07:26:51 PM »

1. Is the SA on Jaddua, son of... a linked ability like DoN? Meaning Do I have to Zerubabbels temple out to protect artifacts from destruction??

Jaddua, son of Jonathan

Type: Hero Char. • Brigade: Teal • Ability: 7 / 5 • Class: None • Special Ability: If Zerubbabel’s Temple is in play, negate all special abilities on Curses. Protect all Artifacts in play, hands, and artifact piles from discard abilities. • Attributes: Zerubbabel's Temple High Priest, House of Eleazar • Identifiers: OT Male Human, Zerubbabel's Temple High Priest (House of Eleazar) • Verse: Nehemiah 12:11 • Availability: Thesaurus ex Preteritus booster packs ()

2. Can I discard my "empty" hand to fulfil the requirement for Primary Objective, when I am blocking against it?

Primary Objective

Type: Hero Enh. • Brigade: Silver • Ability: 3 / 0 • Class: None • Special Ability: If making a rescue attempt, discard hand (minimum 7 cards) and select a lost soul in opponent's Land of Bondage. Opponent must discard hand or holder rescues that lost soul. Battle continues as a battle challenge. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Revelation 14:6 • Availability: Angel Wars booster packs (Ultra Rare)

Ryupeco11 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 19, 2009, 08:58:56 PM »

as for the first question I don't believe you would need z-temple out to protect the artifacts it seems like it's two seperate abilities to me.
secondly I don't think you could discard a hand of zero because there is nothing to discard but again this is just my thought.

Master KChief · « **Reply #2 on:** December 19, 2009, 09:18:56 PM »

1. no
2. yes

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #3 on:** December 19, 2009, 09:57:52 PM »

1. They are two different sentences, so the condition on the first does not apply to the second.

2. According to the rulings on Sinning Hand, Assyria's Tribute and the like, yes, you can discard a hand of zero.

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #4 on:** December 19, 2009, 10:41:44 PM »

Heh, actually BubbleBoy Sinning Hand etc are ruled on the precedent of Primary Objective, not the other way around. I should know as I was the one who got PO ruled that way

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #5 on:** December 19, 2009, 11:07:54 PM »

I wasn't saying which came first necessarily.

browarod · « **Reply #6 on:** December 21, 2009, 11:44:42 AM »

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on December 19, 2009, 10:41:44 PM

I should know as I was the one who got PO ruled that way

So YOU'RE the one! *grumbles*

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #7 on:** December 21, 2009, 11:00:52 PM »

Hey,

Rule of thumb, If you don't like a ruling on a specific card, chances are it was my fault, Pol's Fault or RR's Fault.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #8 on:** December 23, 2009, 11:56:18 AM »

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on December 21, 2009, 11:00:52 PM

Hey,

Rule of thumb, If you don't like a ruling on a specific card, chances are it was my fault, Pol's Fault or RR's Fault.

True statement.

sepjazzwarrior · « **Reply #9 on:** December 23, 2009, 04:25:26 PM »

so if you can discard a hand of zero cards to fufill a requirment, what about jeptha and discarding the top card of deck if you dont have any deck left?

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #10 on:** December 23, 2009, 04:58:57 PM »

You can discard a hand of 0 cards (because you technically still have a hand), but you cannot discard the top card of deck if there is no deck. So, no, you cannot use Jeptha (sp) without a deck.

lightningninja · « **Reply #11 on:** December 23, 2009, 05:01:25 PM »

Cameron's logic I think is off, but his statement is true. The reason you can't use Jepthah (I think) is because you have to discard IN ORDER TO do something else. So you can't do it. It's a cost/benefit. However, if something just says "discard hand" as an afterthought, and isn't tied to another ability, you can do it without any cards.

I think.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #12 on:** December 23, 2009, 05:03:22 PM »

Quote from: lightningninja on December 23, 2009, 05:01:25 PM

Cameron's logic I think is off, but his statement is true.

Cameron's logic is exactly correct. The only reason Jephthah doesn't work is because of the word "top."

lightningninja · « **Reply #13 on:** December 23, 2009, 05:04:16 PM »

Awesome, good job Cameron.

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #14 on:** December 23, 2009, 05:18:48 PM »

Quote from: lightningninja on December 23, 2009, 05:04:16 PM

Awesome, good job Cameron.

Thanks

Your logic is also correct, it just explains something slightly different. Yours explains why in an "X to Y" ability, X must happen for Y to happen. My logic simply explains why you can/can't do X.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #15 on:** December 23, 2009, 07:03:38 PM »

i have helped to create some insane rulings myself....dou+panic demon was me as well as owner and controller on rulings

lightningninja · « **Reply #16 on:** December 23, 2009, 07:27:33 PM »

Wait.... what was the dou+panic demon ruling?

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #17 on:** December 23, 2009, 11:11:52 PM »

DoU + Pale Green PD ruling was that if you use DoU on the PD to stop a rescue... PD's ability still works, and he is instead placed on an opponents hero after stopping the block.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #18 on:** December 23, 2009, 11:37:06 PM »

Back to the Jephthah thing, I think the real difference between him and, say, Sinning Hand, is that Jephthah scecifies a number. If you don't have that number left, you can't do it. Sinning Hand just specifies a percentage. You can have a percentage of 0, but it will be 0.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #19 on:** December 23, 2009, 11:45:06 PM »

Quote from: RTSmaniac on December 23, 2009, 07:03:38 PM

i have helped to create some insane rulings myself....

I have too..... it is now ruled that grumpy, old men should not post on these boards.

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #20 on:** December 24, 2009, 01:08:10 AM »

Hey now,

It's Christmas, even the Head Grinch Scheaf says so, just look at the theme

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #21 on:** December 24, 2009, 01:16:51 AM »

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on December 24, 2009, 01:08:10 AM

Hey now,

It's Christmas, even the Head Grinch Scheaf says so, just look at the theme

Still the same Metallistic I told it to use, lol.

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