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Meal in Emmaus/Burial Shroud
« on: July 11, 2009, 11:58:16 PM »
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What happens if I (the attacker) am losing in battle and I play The Meal in Emmaus to activate Burial Shroud?  Is the entire battle protected from ever happening or am I misunderstanding the definition of "Interrupt the Battle"?

The Meal in Emmaus
Interrupt the battle. Holder may activate a new Artifact. Artifact takes immediate effect. Previous Artifact's effect is negated.

Burial Shroud
Holder may not make a rescue attempt or be attacked. May be used twice. • Play As: Prevent holder from making a rescue attempt. Protect holder from being attacked. May be used twice.
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Re: Meal in Emmaus/Burial Shroud
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2009, 09:17:50 AM »
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interrupt the battle does the following:

1.  Interrupts any enhancement that would give you init via removal
2.  Interrupts the last enhancement played, if played by your opponent.

I'm pretty sure that that is all ITB does.  However, I have no clue what happens in your situation.

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Re: Meal in Emmaus/Burial Shroud
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2009, 09:24:13 AM »
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It would make the Rescue Attempt become a Battle Challenge. Since you are losing the battle, this would serve no purpose, other than to prevent your opponent from attacking you during their turn.
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Re: Meal in Emmaus/Burial Shroud
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2009, 09:35:18 AM »
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It's an interesting way to win a block via a side battle... :)

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Re: Meal in Emmaus/Burial Shroud
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2009, 11:06:26 AM »
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It's an interesting way to win a block via a side battle... :)

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Re: Meal in Emmaus/Burial Shroud
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2009, 01:07:44 PM »
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Quite genious .... but not relevant to the example, since he said he was the "attacker."  :P
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Re: Meal in Emmaus/Burial Shroud
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2009, 04:26:56 PM »
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It would make the Rescue Attempt become a Battle Challenge. Since you are losing the battle, this would serve no purpose, other than to prevent your opponent from attacking you during their turn.

Actually it wouldn't do anything to your Rescue Attempt. Burial Shroud prevents you from making rescues, but it can't prevent something that is already happening. So it's actually an ingenious way to stop your opponent from rescuing with no drawback to you. 
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Re: Meal in Emmaus/Burial Shroud
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2009, 04:31:52 PM »
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The "Play As" says that it stops "rescue attempts." If you are saying that cannot be done here, then you are suggesting that a rescue can be made. The "Play as" does not say that "rescues" are prevented, it says "rescue attempts."
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Re: Meal in Emmaus/Burial Shroud
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2009, 04:34:24 PM »
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It prevents rescue attempts, it doesn't stop the fact that one is already taking place.
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Re: Meal in Emmaus/Burial Shroud
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2009, 04:35:32 PM »
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So if jtay suddenly realized that he had a battle winner stuck behind one of his other cards, he could still win the LS?
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Re: Meal in Emmaus/Burial Shroud
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2009, 04:39:16 PM »
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Indeed.
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Re: Meal in Emmaus/Burial Shroud
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2009, 04:41:27 PM »
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So that whole discussion from Every Man's Sword about RA vs. BC being dynamic is not relevant to this scenario. Hmph.  :-\

That'll teach anyone who listens to me for ruling questions.
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Re: Meal in Emmaus/Burial Shroud
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2009, 05:03:04 PM »
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That'll teach anyone who listens to me for ruling questions.

Don't be so hard on yourself. I have been scouring the ruling questions from during my long absence in the past few weeks, and you have answered many a question correctly with good evidence. Even the most prolific ruling question posters have been wrong every once in awhile. Except for the Schaef, he's never been wrong.

The tricky thing with this question is keeping track of the terminology. Prevent only stops things from taking place in the future, but once something has already happened or has started happening, it cannot be prevented. A card that prevents an EC's SA does nothing against an EC who's SA is already active. It's basically the same situation here.
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