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Grapes VS Herod's dungeon?
« on: March 26, 2010, 03:03:03 PM »
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I block with random herod 204 vs moses. Moses gets captured by herod's dungeon. Does the rescuer have the time to play grapes of wrath or aotl?
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Re: Grapes VS Herod's dungeon?
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2010, 03:22:29 PM »
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I would say no, because you're not required to have initiative.

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Re: Grapes VS Herod's dungeon?
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2010, 03:45:13 PM »
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I think maybe you could (to get rid of the EC/start a new rescue if losing) but it would not change the outcome of Herod's Dungeon capturing the Hero.
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Re: Grapes VS Herod's dungeon?
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2010, 04:02:09 PM »
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This came up when I was playing RR.  I didn't want to reverse battle resolution, just kill his guy (and start a new RA if I didn't have more Redeemed Souls, which I did), like Guardian said.

I just wondered if there was a window AFTER Moses was captured but BEFORE Herod left the battle.

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Re: Grapes VS Herod's dungeon?
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2010, 04:30:34 PM »
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Since dominants can be played at any time, then make the "any" the window you are looking for, IMO.
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Re: Grapes VS Herod's dungeon?
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2010, 04:33:57 PM »
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If my opponent plays Authority of Christ and discards all of my blocking EC's, the hero is still in battle and is susceptible to CM, Writ, or several other things that can stop the rescue. I don't see why it would be different (i.e. why the EC wouldn't still be in battle) after the only hero is removed from battle. I have often used Grapes to get an additional rescue after my opponent discards my hero via CM.

So yes, the rescuer can play Grapes/AotL, but Moses is still captured.
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Re: Grapes VS Herod's dungeon?
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2010, 04:35:34 PM »
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So wait you can aotl after Nerg-swift horses- (battle winner) before they return to territory where they are protected by HQ at Ribah?
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Re: Grapes VS Herod's dungeon?
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2010, 04:36:54 PM »
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Yes. Unless the battle winner says End the battle, like Gibeonite Trickery et al., then you can discard the EC before the battle officially ends.
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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2010, 04:37:35 PM »
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Yes. Unless the battle winner says End the battle, like Gibeonite Trickery et al., then you can discard the EC before the battle officially ends.

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Re: Grapes VS Herod's dungeon?
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2010, 04:37:51 PM »
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Yes. Unless the battle winner says End the battle, like Gibeonite Trickery et al., then you can discard the EC before the battle officially ends.
Wow, wish I hadda known that before.
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Re: Grapes VS Herod's dungeon?
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2010, 04:39:22 PM »
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I would have still won.....  ;)
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