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Here are a few more situations that came up in battle.

1) I made a rescue attempt with Shamhuth (negates the special ability on all non-weapon-class enhancements). My opponent played Achan's Sin (interrupt the battle and remove all cards in battle from the game). Now, my understanding is that since Shamhuth's ability is active, that would negate the ability on Achan's Sin, since Achan's Sin is not a "cannot be negated" card. But my opponent was saying that you can interrupt the battle with Achan's Sin. He said that people at Nationals told him he could do this, but I believe he's confusing it with the situation of me capturing his character, then he interrupts the battle with Achan's Sin to remove everything in battle before the capture resolves. So my question is: does Shamhuth negate the special ability on a card like Achan's Sin that interrupts the battle (not necessarily Shamhuth's ability itself).

2) Now, my next question is: how are artifacts that can only be used a certain number of times actually activated? I actually heard this situation two different ways at Nationals. Say he activates Assyria's Tribute (if you block with an Assyrian, negate special abilities on Enhancements and Heroes; may only be used twice). When he flips it over, does it activate immediately? And how does that work? I was told that as soon as it activates, it basically stays active for the entire round (your turn, then your opponent's turn -- giving you a chance to block with an Assyrian and even if you don't then it counts as a use). Is that how it works, or it count as a use as soon as it's activated and then on your opponent's turn whether you block or not it counts as your second use?

3) My opponent buried his Site Removal Lost Soul. I recovered it from the discard pile with The Thankful Leper (search opponent's discard pile and return all Lost Souls to opponent's Land of Bondage). Since it was me putting the Site Removal Lost Soul into my opponent's Land of Bondage, does he still get to remove a Lost Soul from a site, or would I get to do so since it's being returned by a special ability on my hero?

Thanks!

1). Yes
2). There are three types of artifacts, Optional use, Used = Activated, and Always active... Assyria's Tribute is a used = activated artifact, so if its activated it gets a counter (or use) and you can use it one more time.
An example of an optional use artifact is Go into Captivity
3). I would need to know the exact wording, but if it says "When drawn" neither of you would be able to remove a lost soul from a site

So basically, even though Assyria's Tribute says "may be used twice," it can really only be used once since you can't block on your turn?

Also, the exact wording on the Site Removal is "when you place this card in your land of bondage, you may remove a Lost Soul from one of your sites."

Quote from: FresnoRedemption on August 07, 2009, 03:01:41 AM

Quote from: Smokey on August 07, 2009, 02:56:32 AM

1). Yes
2). There are three types of artifacts, Optional use, Used = Activated, and Always active... Assyria's Tribute is a used = activated artifact, so if its activated it gets a counter (or use) and you can use it one more time.
An example of an optional use artifact is Go into Captivity
3). I would need to know the exact wording, but if it says "When drawn" neither of you would be able to remove a lost soul from a site

Ah, okay. Thank you.

So basically, even though Assyria's Tribute says "may be used twice," it can really only be used once since you can't block on your turn?

Also, the exact wording on the Site Removal is "when you place this card in your land of bondage, you may remove a Lost Soul from one of your sites."

You aren't placing it into your land of bondage, no ls is removed.

Assyria's Tribute is active for a round before it gets another counter, you can activate another artifact during your prep phase (It goes through your turn and your opponents turn before it gets a counter)

Wow, that was weird. I could swear I said something after the quote but it didn't appear.

Just an FYI Shamhuth doesn't work the way you described him as.  He is a prevent not a negate.  There is a pretty large Difference between the two.  Sayeth the REG:

Shamhuth

Type: Hero Char. • Brigade: Yellow • Ability: 8 / 8 • Class: None • Special Ability: All special abilities on enhancement cards are prevented. • Identifiers: OT Male Human, Fought Earthly Battle • Verse: I Chronicles 27:8 • Availability: Warriors booster packs (Rare) • Background

Type: Hero Char. • Brigade: Yellow • Ability: 8 / 8 • Class: Warrior • Special Ability: Prevent all special abilities on non-weapon class enhancements. • Identifiers: OT Male Human, Fought Earthly Battle • Verse: I Chronicles 27:8 • Availability: Kings booster packs (Rare) • Background

So He wouldn't stop an ability that had already happened because he does not interrupt the battle.

I apologize. Slip of the pen, so to speak. But the question still remains: would he prevent the special ability of Achan's Sin, which is not a "cannot be negated" card even though it interrupts the battle? My belief is that yes, he would, and it seems to have been confirmed.