Author Topic: 4th Disciples article posted - Who likes fishing? (Read 6024 times)

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #25 on:** July 30, 2010, 03:44:57 PM »

I didn't realize at first that the title of this thread was referring to fishing for spoilers.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #26 on:** July 30, 2010, 03:49:06 PM »

Who turned out the lights?

Anyway, I think the more important spoiler here is Herod's Temple. Hold off on Rescuing a bit, recycle Philosophy with ET, eat AoCP, Zeal, AotL, and Grapes, and then dig in. A Herods or Mormons defense will be hard to beat if they can get out a temple and an EC before you get 3.

Master KChief · « **Reply #27 on:** July 30, 2010, 04:04:40 PM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on July 30, 2010, 03:44:57 PM

I didn't realize at first that the title of this thread was referring to fishing for spoilers.

i take it you dont like spoilers.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #28 on:** July 30, 2010, 04:12:30 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on July 30, 2010, 04:04:40 PM

i take it you dont like spoilers.

That is situational. If I know I am going to see a movie, then I refuse to watch previews for it. If I am not sure whether a movie will be worth my money, then I will watch the trailers.

I want there to be some surprise when I open Disciples packs this fall. However, when Ken is preselling new cards before I can see them, a sense of urgency does present itself. I also fear trading or buying from people "in the know." I remember when there were suddenly a plethora of Warriors Harvest Times on eBay a few years back, for the reasonable price of $20. I almost bought one, but I started to wonder, so I held off. Shortly thereafter, the HT promo was released.

Likewise, when I suddenly get a rash of trade offers for High Priest's Plot, I start to wonder if Sadducees and Judas are about to make a big splash.

Bryon · « **Reply #29 on:** July 30, 2010, 04:15:08 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on July 30, 2010, 03:49:06 PM

I think the more important spoiler here is Herod's Temple. Hold off on Rescuing a bit, recycle Philosophy with ET, eat AoCP, Zeal, AotL, and Grapes, and then dig in. A Herods or Mormons defense will be hard to beat if they can get out a temple and an EC before you get 3.

Agreed. The enhancements that most players have been calling "overpowered" for years are all discard abilities. AoCp, Zeal, Haman's Plot. Now there is an easy way to "instead" those discards. "OP" just turned into "OK." You just have to keep enough fuel in your deck, or keep the number of your rescued lost souls at a nice low number. If you accidentally discard something you wish you hadn't, there might be a few ways to get some of those cards back into your deck...

Herod's Temple is going to be very helpful for a lot of N.T. human theme decks. Just watch out for Romans Destroy Jerusalem.

Master KChief · « **Reply #30 on:** July 30, 2010, 04:36:33 PM »

herods temple will definately be staple for turtle decks...

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #31 on:** July 30, 2010, 05:08:16 PM »

I want to congratulate the playtesters on Wash Basin also. I was a big fan of the old Samaritan Water Jar, and Wash Basin is the same vein as that. Good call!

ChristianSoldier · « **Reply #32 on:** July 30, 2010, 06:18:22 PM »

I'm liking this card, and the other spoilers, I'm interested to see how some of these work in T2 where you can have multiple copies of disciples, however just not in play. Also I'm a bit more concerned about the power, until I realized that if I let my opponent keep enough disciples to destroy my defense then my defense is already not working well. (I try to avoid "Coward Blocks" if I can)

The disciples deck sounds really fun, I just find it annoying that I won't be able to easily pair it with Demons because they get placed beneath my deck, but we'll see

Captain Kirk · « **Reply #33 on:** July 30, 2010, 06:20:59 PM »

Quote from: ChristianSoldier on July 30, 2010, 06:18:22 PM

The disciples deck sounds really fun, I just find it annoying that I won't be able to easily pair it with Demons because they get placed beneath my deck, but we'll see

Wow, that is a really good point. I wonder if that was on purpose....?

Kirk

Sean · « **Reply #34 on:** July 31, 2010, 11:34:22 PM »

Quote from: Captain Kirk on July 30, 2010, 06:20:59 PM

Quote from: ChristianSoldier on July 30, 2010, 06:18:22 PM
The disciples deck sounds really fun, I just find it annoying that I won't be able to easily pair it with Demons because they get placed beneath my deck, but we'll see

Wow, that is a really good point. I wonder if that was on purpose....?

Kirk

The Bronze Laver lets you put evil cards on the bottom after putting your disciple on the bottom. Fishing Boat and The Bronze Laver might make for a fun mill deck.

Smokey · « **Reply #35 on:** July 31, 2010, 11:41:02 PM »

Disciples are on a boat AND... it's going fast AND...

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #36 on:** August 01, 2010, 12:09:37 AM »

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #37 on:** August 01, 2010, 12:15:53 AM »

O_O Herod's temple makes me SQUEEEE DEFENSE HEAVY DECKS HO!

The funny thing is the BIGGEST spoiler that caught my eye, hasn't been said. It has such a commanding presence too....

Spoiler (hover to show)

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #38 on:** August 01, 2010, 12:17:36 AM »

Pol,

That picture isn't showing up for me, what is it?

Smokey · « **Reply #39 on:** August 01, 2010, 12:18:10 AM »

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on August 01, 2010, 12:17:36 AM

Pol,

That picture isn't showing up for me, what is it?

Better that you don't know...

lightningninja · « **Reply #40 on:** August 01, 2010, 12:29:22 AM »

Wow... I think it's basically impossible to leave Redemption at this point.

This set sounds AMAZING... I really hope I can make some tournaments this year. I will probably be using Disciples all year, haha.

They require SO MUCH THOUGHT, and that's what I love. You don't just throw them in like an aocp and hope you win. Your really have to plan a disciples deck, and that makes it awesome.

Smokey · « **Reply #41 on:** August 01, 2010, 12:30:50 AM »

Quote from: lightningninja on August 01, 2010, 12:29:22 AM

Wow... I think it's basically impossible to leave Redemption at this point. This set sounds AMAZING... I really hope I can make some tournaments this year. I will probably be using Disciples all year, haha.

They require SO MUCH THOUGHT, and that's what I love. You don't just throw them in like an aocp and hope you win. Your really have to plan a disciples deck, and that makes it awesome.

Anyone else get the feeling EVERYONE knows something you don't?

ChristianSoldier · « **Reply #42 on:** August 01, 2010, 12:49:36 AM »

Quote from: Smokey on August 01, 2010, 12:30:50 AM

Quote from: lightningninja on August 01, 2010, 12:29:22 AM
Wow... I think it's basically impossible to leave Redemption at this point. This set sounds AMAZING... I really hope I can make some tournaments this year. I will probably be using Disciples all year, haha.

They require SO MUCH THOUGHT, and that's what I love. You don't just throw them in like an aocp and hope you win. Your really have to plan a disciples deck, and that makes it awesome.

Anyone else get the feeling EVERYONE knows something you don't?

All the time. It gets really annoying after its been happening your entire life.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #43 on:** August 01, 2010, 01:04:47 AM »

I'll share some of the love: Buckler gets a reprint. They had to tone down the power a bit, so it only ~~rescues 5 LS's and gives you legal ownership of all your opponents cards~~. [edited by R.O.S.E.S. Please don't spoil cards in this thread - especially not the superultramega rares like this one.]

JSB23 · « **Reply #44 on:** August 01, 2010, 01:57:59 AM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on August 01, 2010, 01:04:47 AM

I'll share some of the love: Buckler gets a reprint. They had to tone down the power a bit, so it only ~~rescues 5 LS's and gives you legal ownership of all your opponents cards~~. [edited by R.O.S.E.S. Please don't spoil cards in this thread - especially not the superultramega rares like this one.]

Awww....
Can I still spoil the [edited by R.O.S.E.S.] and the [edited by R.O.S.E.S.]
dang it

sepjazzwarrior · « **Reply #45 on:** August 01, 2010, 09:21:14 AM »

is there anyway for a site deck to get around this fortress? if not, this completely destroys site defenses

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #46 on:** August 01, 2010, 09:55:00 AM »

Quote from: sepjazzwarrior on August 01, 2010, 09:21:14 AM

is there anyway for a site deck to get around this fortress? if not, this completely destroys site defenses

I'm sure that was the basic intent, especially with the plethora of turtle decks roaming around. The fortress does have a cost/effect trigger, so a site lockout deck would have to target the disciples quickly. Since the heroes that enter the fortress are now set aside, there are several cards that target heroes who were (or are) set aside. This is not a protection fort like Kerith Ravine. Any cards in the fortress are set aside and targetable.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #47 on:** August 01, 2010, 11:13:31 AM »

Quote from: sepjazzwarrior on August 01, 2010, 09:21:14 AM

is there anyway for a site deck to get around this fortress? if not, this completely destroys site defenses

Don't use a site deck that relies 100% on sites.

fyero · « **Reply #48 on:** August 01, 2010, 06:09:46 PM »

if they were set aside in fishing boat and then placed under deck, and then u draw them, do they stil count as set aside or do they revert bcuz they went back to draw pile?

Smokey · « **Reply #49 on:** August 01, 2010, 06:35:52 PM »

Quote from: fyero on August 01, 2010, 06:09:46 PM

if they were set aside in fishing boat and then placed under deck, and then u draw them, do they stil count as set aside or do they revert bcuz they went back to draw pile?

Your hand is out of play, but if you place them into Battle, Territory, or a fortress that isn't set-aside they will return to in play.
Set aside isn't really something you "revert" from, it's just a different area of play.

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