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Sorry, YMT. Sometimes I have difficulty telling if people are trying to gain understanding or simply debating an issue. That's my fault and text with no tone doesn't seem to help me much. I've seen many conversations turn into arguments. For the most part I feel that is unfruitful so I try not to participate. But I don't want to entirely drop out of a conversation without warning and leave you hanging because I get the wrong impression about how it's going. I'd rather ask and look dumb I guess.

I understand why you want to make sure you have the correct ruling. I also agree with you that this clarification is not in the most obvious place. I can tell you that's because it was written and added to the REG before Grapes and Unknown Nation existed. We both know that points to a deeper issue - THE REG NEEDS UPDATED!!! WHEN WILL WE SEE THE NEW REG??!?! I say that tongue in cheek but I feel your pain.

I'm certain that what I'm telling you is correct. Professor Alstad has also confirmed it. The fact that Prof Underwood is unsure of himself is no reason not to take our word on this. If you rule as I've explained at your Regional tournament you have two scapegoats if it turns out to be wrong. If you rule differently you do not.

For your sake I will post this on the elder boards. As most discussions there don't happen quickly over there I cannot promise that we can report back before it really matters to you.

I'm certain that what I'm telling you is correct. Professor Alstad has also confirmed it. The fact that Prof Underwood is unsure of himself is no reason not to take our word on this. If you rule as I've explained at your Regional tournament you have two scapegoats if it turns out to be wrong. If you rule differently you do not.

I agree with Gabe that you should rule his way at this time.  There are 2 elders in agreement, and none in disagreement (I'm not disagreeing, just unsure).  So that is official for now

If it would help, I could add this at the top of my Cheat Sheet with the other recent ruling changes so people have more ready access to it.

You can, but it is possible that I was the only one ruling it wrong. Of course, that affects playgroups in two different states.... 

We will work to make this more clear in the REG/Rulebook. That should be released sometime around 2033.

That soon?

I have Southeast Regionals coming up in one week, with players in the top .001% that I really would rather not have to face-off with.

 

What exactly is the new/updated/correct ruling?

Quote from: spicynumber1 on July 12, 2011, 04:47:43 PM

What exactly is the new/updated/correct ruling?

If a character is removed from battle, then any enhancements played on that character that cannot be transferred to another character currently in battle are discarded immediately, and therefore cannot be used to satisfy Grapes of Wrath's discard ability. Also, a player cannot use Unknown Nation to bring in a new character that could have used those enhancements.

Gabe is correct.

Err...Uh...nvm.