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ok, I am immune to gray. my opponent blocks with an Emperor. They have Rome in play, they play Coliseum Lions. am I immune to whatever that emperor plays? or only gray brigade enhancements

I believe Immunity is based on the character itself.

Example: Red Dragon is Immune to Humans, enhancements aren't humans but if they're used by a human Red Dragon is immune to them.

What if your enh bands in another char from a different brigade?

Coliseum Lions is crimson... so you're not immune to it, you're only immune to gray.

REG entry (Ongoing Abilities > Immune > Special Conditions)
"You must be immune to all colors to be immune to a multicolor character.  Even though you are immune to one color, the multicolor character still has other colors you must target for immunity to work."

I'm not sure it's that simple.  Being able to use any color of enhancement is not the same as being multicolor.  If he's immune to grey, he's immune to the EC.  I'm fairly sure that also applies to all enhancements played by the grey EC.  If the evil character used a multi-color enhancement that would harm the hero, I don't think it would bypass the immunity the same way it would if the character was multi-color.

Quote from: sk on February 09, 2009, 11:09:52 PM

Coliseum Lions is crimson... so you're not immune to it, you're only immune to gray.

REG entry (Ongoing Abilities > Immune > Special Conditions)
"You must be immune to all colors to be immune to a multicolor character.  Even though you are immune to one color, the multicolor character still has other colors you must target for immunity to work."

Not a perfect quote, but seems like it brings the same result.

That quote seems to reinforce that the character's color is what matters. However, what if a multicolor hero used a gray enhancement in this case?

However, what if a multicolor hero used a gray enhancement in this case?

That would undoubtedly cause the Redemption universe to implode.

Yeah, the quote wasn't even related.  But immunity to gray would simply make you, well, immune to gray, right?  Why would it also make you immune to the other enhancements you use?

That quote seems to reinforce that the character's color is what matters. However, what if a multicolor hero used a gray enhancement in this case?

Assuming you mean EC, I'd think the hero is immune to the enhancement (since it is gray), but not to the character (see above quote).

This quote from the rulebook (p.25) seems to indicate that the character is who you are immune to, not the enhancements:

Your Hero is winning by immunity if the Hero is immune to the blocking Evil Character and the strength of your Hero greater than or equal to the blocking Evil Character’s toughness. Either way, your opponent has initiative and can play any evil enhancement of matching brigade. However, the special ability on the enhancement cannot be directed at a Hero that is immune to the Evil Character or is ignoring the Evil Character.

But the card is not of matching brigade so doesnt that factor in at all?

It might. I'm just researching for an answer since the REG and rulebook do not specifically address this.

On the other hand, the Glossary (p.47) says this:

Immunity protects a character from being defeated or directly affected by another card.

Since it just says "card," maybe enhancements can be treated separately.  

And I still stand that if you're immune to a character you're immune to all of it's enhancements.

Well that's the way I always ruled it in CT, but I would like some support from the rulebook or REG.

Hey,

If you are immune to a character you are immune to any enhancement played on that character regardless of what brigade the enhancement is.

If you are immune to gray, and a gray enhancement is played on a multicolor character you are immune to the enhancement.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

I think we all agree on those two points.  The question we really want to know is if a crimson discard enhancement played on a gray evil character (perhaps a Roman w/ Rome), and the hero is immune to gray, are they immune to the crimson enhancement?

If you are immune to a character you are immune to any enhancement played on that character regardless of what brigade the enhancement is.

What is the reference for this ruling, though? I agree and have always ruled it that way, but I'm not sure how I can defend it in the REG or rulebook.