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Title: Unofficial Substitute Online Tournament Rankings UPDATED 3/14/2009
Post by: EmJayBee83 on January 17, 2009, 01:40:27 AM
Hey All,

I've been playing around with statistical ranking systems again, and figured I could use the results from the ongoing Substitute Online Tournament thread for some data. Anyway, using every result reported (I believe I got them all) in that thread we have the following rankings...

UPDATED March 14th, 2009.

     1. BrianGabe                          1824
     2. soul seeker                         1817
     3. fireninja                               1794
     4. Rawrlolsauce!                      1740
     5. SirNobody                           1663
     6. Janissary                            1659 
     7. Sean                                   1631
     8. xCaLeBx                             1593
     9. 77matthew                           1548
    10. Prof Underwood                   1530
    11. TheKarazyvicePresidentRR  1520
    12. TimMierz                            1500
    13. 777Godspeed                     1497
    14. STAMP                              1481
    15. Tsavong Lah                       1398
    16. wk4c                                  1385
    17. Isildur                                 1364
    18. stefferweffer                         1334
    19. jack99                                1313
    20. EmJayBee83*                     1303
    21. brederic                              1299
    22. Lamborghini Diablo              1275
    23. New Raven                         1264
    24. Rrulez4theSA                     1260
    25. captain                               1237
    26. RED                                   1129
    27. MehMan                             1071


I have created a post at the end of this thread with a copy of the original ratings from Feb 8, 2009 and the included, if anyone wants to compare.

*From on-line games not in tournament.

Glicko-1 using 1500 +- 350 starting values and recalculating after each game.
Title: Re: Unofficial Substitute Online Tournament Rankings
Post by: Prof Underwood on January 17, 2009, 02:23:30 PM
I think these are pretty accurate really.  Although I suspect that some players will move up (Gabe, Mierz, and Lambo) when more games are played.  I'll be interested to see how these develop.  Perhaps you could release a monthly update on this thread so that people could track their progression?

I'd also suggest keeping it locked between updates so that it doesn't get clogged up with unnecessary posts :)
Title: Re: Unofficial Substitute Online Tournament Rankings
Post by: EmJayBee83 on January 17, 2009, 04:34:35 PM
I think these are pretty accurate really.  Although I suspect that some players will move up (Gabe, Mierz, and Lambo) when more games are played.

TimMierz is a rather interesting study. Early on, when everybody was at 1500 level he beat Janissary and lost to fireninja. If he had played those games near the end with the same result, he would have ended up around 1600.

77matthew's ranking is also interesting as he is currently 3-2, but his two losses were "quality losses" coming against soul seeker and Proj Underwood very early on.

In both cases, it's not just wins and losses that matter but how good we think your competition is.

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I'll be interested to see how these develop.  Perhaps you could release a monthly update on this thread so that people could track their progression?

I would like to periodically add in future results from the online tournament, if that is OK with soul seeker. I don't want to step on his tournament for something that is mostly just for my amusement at this point.

If anyone wants to get ranked, but doesn't want to play in the online tourney, drop me a PM and we can work something out. The main thing is you need to give me win/loss/tie results from games that both players agree ahead of time will be "official."

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I'd also suggest keeping it locked between updates so that it doesn't get clogged up with unnecessary posts :)

Done.
Title: Re: Unofficial Substitute Online Tournament Rankings
Post by: EmJayBee83 on February 08, 2009, 02:04:56 PM
Original Jan. 17, 2009 Unofficial Rankings

Hey All,

I've been playing around with statistical ranking systems again, and figured I could use the results from the ongoing Substitute Online Tournament thread for some data. Anyway, using every result reported (I believe I got them all) in that thread we have the following rankings...

    1. soul seeker         1927
    2. BrianGabe           1754
    3. fireninja               1729
    4. Prof Underwood   1644
    5. Janissary            1625
    6.a. 77matthew        1613
    6.b. Rawrlolsauce!    1613
    8. TimMierz             1500
    9. 777Godspeed      1497
   10. STAMP              1490
   11.a. xCaLeBx         1481
   11.b. Red'Rocks       1481
   13. Tsavong Lah        1406
   14. wk4c                  1385
   15. captain               1316
   16. jack99                1313
   17. New Raven          1278
   18. L. Diablo             1275
   19. Rrulez4theSA      1271
   20. RED                   1092
   21. MehMan             1071

One gratifying thing is that the top five are all about exactly where I would have placed them just running through the thread writing down results.

Glicko-1 using 1500 +- 350 starting values and recalculating after each game.
Title: Re: Unofficial Substitute Online Tournament Rankings
Post by: New Raven BR on February 08, 2009, 02:08:14 PM
*sighs* :(
Title: Re: Unofficial Substitute Online Tournament Rankings UPDATED 2/8/2009
Post by: EmJayBee83 on February 08, 2009, 02:14:29 PM
Please don't...

Just to get me as last poster.
Title: Re: Unofficial Substitute Online Tournament Rankings UPDATED 2/8/2009
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on February 15, 2009, 11:08:04 AM
Stickied so this doesn't get lost.

I don't think I need to bother stickying the other thread because it gets posted in so often.
Title: Re: Unofficial Substitute Online Tournament Rankings UPDATED 2/8/2009
Post by: EmJayBee83 on March 14, 2009, 09:52:47 AM
February 8, 2008 Update

I've been playing around with statistical ranking systems again, and figured I could use the results from the ongoing Substitute Online Tournament thread for some data. Anyway, using every result reported (I believe I got them all) in that thread we have the following rankings...

UPDATED February 8th, 2009.

     1. soul seeker                        1950
     2. BrianGabe                          1812
     3. fireninja                               1729
     4. Rawrlolsauce!                      1677
     5. Janissary                            1646
     6. SirNobody                           1640
     7. Sean                                  1631
     8. Prof Underwood                   1571
     9. xCaLeBx                             1570
   10. TheKarazyvicePresidentRR   1539
   11. 77matthew                          1505
   12. TimMierz                             1500
   13. 777Godspeed                      1497
   14. STAMP                               1481
   15. Tsavong Lah                        1425
   16. EmJayBee83*                      1418
   17. wk4c                                   1385
   18. brederic                               1369
   19. jack99                                 1313
   20. Lamborghini Diablo               1275
   21. Rrulez4theSA                      1271
   22. New Raven                          1266
   23. captain                                1155
   24. MehMan                              1071
   25. RED                                    1016


I have created a post at the end of this thread with a copy of the original ratings from January 17, 2009 included, if anyone wants to compare.

*From on-line games not in tournament.

Glicko-1 using 1500 +- 350 starting values and recalculating after each game.
Title: Re: Unofficial Substitute Online Tournament Rankings UPDATED 2/8/2009
Post by: New Raven BR on March 14, 2009, 09:54:30 AM
just wait. i'v only played one game in the tournament so far.
my rank will go higher
Title: Re: Unofficial Substitute Online Tournament Rankings UPDATED 3/14/2009
Post by: EmJayBee83 on March 14, 2009, 09:59:25 AM
Thanks for posting, Raven.

This is for the old unofficial tournament.
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