Author Topic: undereused themes tourny. (Read 11987 times)

Red · « **on:** February 15, 2010, 09:22:58 AM »

basicly you have to take one of these underused themes and build a deck around it.

theme1:deacons
theme2:daniel
theme3:musicans
theme4:jude
theme5:no SA characters
theme6:red warriors
theme7:apostles
theme8:acts

NOTE:this is rts only so I can't play.
send me a decklist and we'll go on from there.

depending on the number of entrats it'll be ether round robin or single emantion.

3-Liner And Bags Of Chips · « **Reply #1 on:** February 15, 2010, 11:09:35 AM »

I will build one for ya, but I won't be able to play with it...if that is fine...I love building decks on rts. Somebody else can use it if they want...

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #2 on:** February 15, 2010, 11:11:41 AM »

jude? I didn't even know that jude could have a theme!

ACe · « **Reply #3 on:** February 15, 2010, 11:17:21 AM »

Quote from: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on February 15, 2010, 11:09:35 AM

I will build one for ya, but I won't be able to play with it...if that is fine...I love building decks on rts. Somebody else can use it if they want...

3-Liner And Bags Of Chips · « **Reply #4 on:** February 15, 2010, 11:31:00 AM »

i just got done one. Did you wanted posted here, or sent in a pm? I just kinda threw it together. It can be moded to fit the person playing...

Red · « **Reply #5 on:** February 15, 2010, 12:03:04 PM »

post it here.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #6 on:** February 15, 2010, 04:27:09 PM »

I don't want to be

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an isotope of radon produced by radioactive disintegration

Question, since this is a contest are there any prizes?

Red · « **Reply #7 on:** February 15, 2010, 05:48:35 PM »

no sorry need to change the title.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #8 on:** February 15, 2010, 10:27:47 PM »

Jude and Acts aren't really themes, especially since there are no cards that specify those kinds of characters in their abilities. Other than that, I think this is a fantastic idea. For defense, I think Syrians, Persians, Sadducees, Assyrians, and Greeks should be on the list. (This list is more difficult to make, as defense is a bit more balanced between themes than offense.)

Ironica · « **Reply #9 on:** February 15, 2010, 11:24:15 PM »

Quote from: BubbleBoy on February 15, 2010, 10:27:47 PM

Jude and Acts aren't really themes, especially since there are no cards that specify those kinds of characters in their abilities. Other than that, I think this is a fantastic idea. For defense, I think Syrians, Persians, Sadducees, Assyrians, and Greeks should be on the list. (This list is more difficult to make, as defense is a bit more balanced between themes than offense.)

For the defense, I would suggest stating that you would have to make a pure defense with those themes (since I do use Greeks in one of my decks but I also have some Pharisees and Nero in it as well).

Also, why Sadducees? They have plenty to make a good defense.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #10 on:** February 16, 2010, 12:27:59 AM »

I think he meant pharisees.
Btw: For giggles, can I mix themes?

Quote from: BubbleBoy on February 15, 2010, 10:27:47 PM

Jude and Acts aren't really themes, especially since there are no cards that specify those kinds of characters in their abilities. Other than that, I think this is a fantastic idea. For defense, I think Syrians, Persians, Sadducees, Assyrians, and Greeks should be on the list. (This list is more difficult to make, as defense is a bit more balanced between themes than offense.)

If I tell you I force my brother to use a Red Warrior/Grey Syrian (with a nero splash) deck, does I get a cookie? (It actually is pretty good)

Crashfach2002 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 16, 2010, 12:29:25 AM »

He could have easily meant Sadducees, this thread is about underused, not bad. Compared to Greeks, using A-Bom, or the greatness of Philitines, Sadducees kind of get left behind.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #12 on:** February 16, 2010, 12:30:30 AM »

They are underused, but they used to be top meta.

lightningninja · « **Reply #13 on:** February 16, 2010, 12:31:54 AM »

Quote from: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on February 15, 2010, 04:27:09 PM

I don't want to be
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an isotope of radon produced by radioactive disintegration
Question, since this is a contest are there any prizes?

Yeah if we get ten people and at least three games (preliminary and championsihp), I'll send a pack to the winner.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #14 on:** February 16, 2010, 12:32:53 AM »

Woot Buckler here I come!

Professoralstad · « **Reply #15 on:** February 16, 2010, 12:33:31 AM »

Quote from: Ironica on February 15, 2010, 11:24:15 PM

Quote from: BubbleBoy on February 15, 2010, 10:27:47 PM
Jude and Acts aren't really themes, especially since there are no cards that specify those kinds of characters in their abilities. Other than that, I think this is a fantastic idea. For defense, I think Syrians, Persians, Sadducees, Assyrians, and Greeks should be on the list. (This list is more difficult to make, as defense is a bit more balanced between themes than offense.)

For the defense, I would suggest stating that you would have to make a pure defense with those themes (since I do use Greeks in one of my decks but I also have some Pharisees and Nero in it as well).

Also, why Sadducees? They have plenty to make a good defense.

I disagree with Sadducees as well. Also, Syrians and Assyrians are iffy, they are underused only because of the general preference for small defenses in Redemption, but in a format like this, where there are no Z's Temple Priests or Prophet offenses, they would dominate.

On the other hand, I don't think that making a pure Persian or Greek defense would be possible. But I do think there should be a clear cut definition of what a "theme" is. That is, what percentage of characters in the deck need to be from the theme to make it a themed deck? Note that there are currently only 5 Greeks and 5 Persians in the game. I could make a deacon deck, sure, but I could make it 100x better by adding in Claudia. Just some things to think about.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #16 on:** February 16, 2010, 12:43:00 AM »

I agree very much so. Though pure Syrian's would be interesting. No nero, No shadow, etc.

Cards in deck: 63
Lost Souls: 8
   Lost Soul (anti-ignore)
   Lost Soul (female only)
   Lost Soul (N.T. only)
   Lost Soul (revealer)
   Lost Soul (shuffler)
   Lost Soul (site guard)
   Lost Soul (Speed Bump)
   Lost Soul (Wanderer)

Lamb Dominants: 4
   Angel of the Lord
   Grapes of Wrath
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 3
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Falling Away

Fortresses: 2
   House of Rimmon
   Wall of Protection

Multi-Color Sites: 2
   Dragon Raid
   New Jerusalem (site)

Artifacts: 4
   Chariot of Fire
   Priestly Crown
   Ram's Horn
   Unholy Writ

White Covenant Cards: 3
   Go Into Captivity (Crimson)
   Unknown Nation (Yellow)
   Unsuccessful (Gray)

Red Heroes: 8
   Abishai
   Army of Simeonites
   Caleb
   Jael
   Jephthah
   Men of Judah
   Spy
   The Centurion at Capernaum

Red Hero Enhancements: 13
   A Soldier's Prayer
   Baggage
   Battle Cry
   Caleb's Sword
   Counsel of Abigail
   David's Mighty Men
   Freedom!
   Holy Ground
   Jael's Nail
   Power of the Cross
   The Battle is the Lord's
   The Might of Faith
   Warrior's Spear

Multi ecs: 2
Antiochius (It says he is syrian

)
Winged leopard (Not a sryian but 1 outa 7 ain't too bad)

Gray Evil Characters: 5
   King Cushan-Rishathaim
   King Hazael
   Naaman
   Syrian Archer
   The Strong Force

Gray Evil Enhancements: 9
   Balaam's Disobedience
   Deluge of Rain
   Demonic Snare
   False Peace
   Gold Shield
   Israel Pays Tribute
   Namaan's Chariot and Horses
   Night Raid
   Syrian Victory

And there you have it. I can switch to Pharisees if people feel Syrian's are too wyn.

Pharisee defense.

   High Priest's Palace
UN
Unsuccessful
Gray Evil Characters: 7
   Entrapping Pharisees
   Hard-Hearted Religious Leaders
   Hard-Hearted Religious Leaders
   Pharisees
   Pharisees
   Pharisees
   Proud Pharisee

Gray Evil Enhancements: 10
   Balaam's Disobedience
   Deluge of Rain
   Demonic Snare
   False Peace
   Gold Shield
   Israel Pays Tribute
   Namaan's Chariot and Horses
   Night Raid
   Pretension
   Begging for grain

lightningninja · « **Reply #17 on:** February 16, 2010, 12:45:10 AM »

No underused is like first-strike. That's an underused theme. If you are using Syrians or Assyrians, no packs for you.

I think sads is underused enough. Hm... greeks are under-used I think (let me explain.) If you are forced to use one of those offenses, you can't possibly pull of a-bom, which means you're forced to use just greeks... which, let's face it, aren't that great.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #18 on:** February 16, 2010, 12:51:04 AM »

Luke heroes should be up there. I've never seen an offense with those. Also Yes first strike is, but if used right (on evil) its nasty.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #19 on:** February 16, 2010, 12:51:59 AM »

IMO, you shouldn't be able to use tin themes

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #20 on:** February 16, 2010, 12:57:10 AM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on February 16, 2010, 12:51:59 AM

IMO, you shouldn't be able to use tin themes

*blink* O_o; Then all themes are done. Well cept Deacons. Just cuz a theme got a tin or two (Musicians, Luke heroes) Doesn't make them used.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #21 on:** February 16, 2010, 01:14:39 AM »

FWIW, my Luke/John deck has done pretty well. Though that's mostly due to the Philistine defense, but it can be a great offense if you play it right.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #22 on:** February 16, 2010, 08:13:39 AM »

Quote from: Professoralstad on February 16, 2010, 12:33:31 AM

Quote from: Ironica on February 15, 2010, 11:24:15 PM
Quote from: BubbleBoy on February 15, 2010, 10:27:47 PM
Jude and Acts aren't really themes, especially since there are no cards that specify those kinds of characters in their abilities. Other than that, I think this is a fantastic idea. For defense, I think Syrians, Persians, Sadducees, Assyrians, and Greeks should be on the list. (This list is more difficult to make, as defense is a bit more balanced between themes than offense.)

For the defense, I would suggest stating that you would have to make a pure defense with those themes (since I do use Greeks in one of my decks but I also have some Pharisees and Nero in it as well).

Also, why Sadducees? They have plenty to make a good defense.

I disagree with Sadducees as well. Also, Syrians and Assyrians are iffy, they are underused only because of the general preference for small defenses in Redemption, but in a format like this, where there are no Z's Temple Priests or Prophet offenses, they would dominate.

On the other hand, I don't think that making a pure Persian or Greek defense would be possible. But I do think there should be a clear cut definition of what a "theme" is. That is, what percentage of characters in the deck need to be from the theme to make it a themed deck? Note that there are currently only 5 Greeks and 5 Persians in the game. I could make a deacon deck, sure, but I could make it 100x better by adding in Claudia. Just some things to think about.

When I said Sadds, I actually meant Sadds. I see Pharisees used all the time, but I don't think I've seen a single Sadducee in a deck (besides one of mine that I never played with) since TxP came out. Whether or not it's powerful, I believe it is one of the most underused.

As for the character concentration, I say the minimum percentage of characters from that theme should be 50%. This would allow for 8-10 character defenses (or offenses) for the themes that only have a few cards so far.

Red · « **Reply #23 on:** February 16, 2010, 08:17:56 AM »

defnce themes are

theme1:sadds
theme2:persans.or emps your choice.
theme3:evil isearlites
theme4:judean kings(or whatever works with gates)
theme5:syirans
theme6:ayissans
theme7:herods
theme8:magicans

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #24 on:** February 16, 2010, 10:06:24 AM »

Quote from: RED on February 16, 2010, 08:17:56 AM

defnce themes are

theme1:sadds
theme2:persans.or emps your choice.
theme3:evil isearlites
theme4:judean kings(or whatever works with gates)
theme5:syirans
theme6:ayissans
theme7:herods
theme8:magicans

3 is OP'd in this. and you listed 3 brown colors... ... Emps are one of the most common defenses. as are Assyrians...

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Author Topic: undereused themes tourny. (Read 11987 times)

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