Author Topic: Redemption Table Simulator 2 (Read 18593 times)

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #50 on:** August 31, 2009, 05:18:43 PM »

Quote from: lightningninja on August 31, 2009, 04:14:50 PM

As for cost... I heard it will be something like you buy a collection of cards on the site. You can buy packs or individual cards, obviously WAY cheaper than buying a real pack or a real don. But it's a great investment, once you have that card you can use it, in any and all deck.

And can you "trade" these "Redemption Live" cards?

Gabe · « **Reply #51 on:** August 31, 2009, 09:51:11 PM »

Quote from: Prof Underwood on August 31, 2009, 05:18:43 PM

And can you "trade" these "Redemption Live" cards?

Absolutely. The plan is to mirror real world Redemption in every way (except the cost). My impression is that the plan is to allow people to buy, sell and trade single cards if they wish.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #52 on:** August 31, 2009, 10:00:10 PM »

Hmm, it sounds neat but, for reasons I've stated before, RTS works fine for what I need it to do, and its free... $:-\$

Plus, I'm not sure how many people would like having to buy all 2000+ cards again.

mjwolfe · « **Reply #53 on:** August 31, 2009, 10:14:39 PM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on August 31, 2009, 10:00:10 PM

Hmm, it sounds neat but, for reasons I've stated before, RTS works fine for what I need it to do, and its free... $:-\$

Plus, I'm not sure how many people would like having to buy all 2000+ cards again.

You won't be required to use Redemption Live!, but you may find the free tools (like the Deck Editor, Card Browser, Collection Tracker) are pretty helpful.

And when it comes to playing online tournaments or just playing Booster Draft, Teams, or Multi-Player will add things that RTS just can't really do. Also, I really hope that it'll be much faster to play games on Redemption Live! than it is through RTS.

I like hearing everyone's thoughts on the subject. It can help shape what Redemption Live! becomes before it's even released.

Mike

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #54 on:** August 31, 2009, 10:31:25 PM »

I think it's a great idea to have the cards be the "cost" for RL. (New abbr., yay!

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I hope Storehouse credit can cover some of the expenses in the future. BTW, does Redemption cash have UPC's on it?

lightningninja · « **Reply #55 on:** August 31, 2009, 11:14:36 PM »

Trust me guys... you'll want to play. All I'm probably going to do is buy my deck and use that for every year... it won't cost very much at all.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #56 on:** September 01, 2009, 12:06:41 AM »

That is where I run into a problem. I make decks as soon as I think of them, and then I cant even test them out until I buy the cards.

mjwolfe · « **Reply #57 on:** September 01, 2009, 01:10:51 AM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on September 01, 2009, 12:06:41 AM

That is where I run into a problem. I make decks as soon as I think of them, and then I cant even test them out until I buy the cards.

Well, you might get the cards in boosters you win in an online tournament. You might borrow them out of one of the other decks you've made. You might get a gift certificate for your birthday. Someone might trade them to you. You could keep the cards that you use in a Booster Draft event. The possibilities are almost endless.

Mike

FresnoRedemption · « **Reply #58 on:** September 01, 2009, 02:27:22 AM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on August 31, 2009, 10:00:10 PM

Hmm, it sounds neat but, for reasons I've stated before, RTS works fine for what I need it to do, and its free... $:-\$

Plus, I'm not sure how many people would like having to buy all 2000+ cards again.

Actually, this is the breaking point for me. If I had to pay a yearly fee (or perhaps even a monthly fee), I would probably consider paying for the service. But I can't justify buying all the cards again to play on-line (especially since all I'm really interested in is type-1 2-player and I can get that from RTS). I have a ton of physical cards, and aside from having to buy them all again, I don't know if I could justify spending money if I don't have a physical object to show for what I spent. So if this is the method of Redemption Live, I'll probably just stick with RTS.

metalpsalm · « **Reply #59 on:** September 01, 2009, 03:01:33 AM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on September 01, 2009, 12:06:41 AM

That is where I run into a problem. I make decks as soon as I think of them, and then I cant even test them out until I buy the cards.

What if there were a "test garage" where you could build a deck, get percentages and stats about it, see how it draws out ect, and then decide to buy it or not?

metalpsalm · « **Reply #60 on:** September 01, 2009, 03:03:08 AM »

Quote from: FresnoRedemption on September 01, 2009, 02:27:22 AM

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on August 31, 2009, 10:00:10 PM
Hmm, it sounds neat but, for reasons I've stated before, RTS works fine for what I need it to do, and its free... $:-\$

Plus, I'm not sure how many people would like having to buy all 2000+ cards again.

Actually, this is the breaking point for me. If I had to pay a yearly fee (or perhaps even a monthly fee), I would probably consider paying for the service. But I can't justify buying all the cards again to play on-line (especially since all I'm really interested in is type-1 2-player and I can get that from RTS). I have a ton of physical cards, and aside from having to buy them all again, I don't know if I could justify spending money if I don't have a physical object to show for what I spent. So if this is the method of Redemption Live, I'll probably just stick with RTS.

what if you could opt to redeam the online cards for the physical cards being mailed to you?

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #61 on:** September 01, 2009, 03:28:52 AM »

Quote from: metalpsalm on September 01, 2009, 03:03:08 AM

what if you could opt to redeam the online cards for the physical cards being mailed to you?

Or alternatively, you could probably trade some of your physical cards to someone for their extra online cards as another way to get them without having to "pay" anything.

drb1200 · « **Reply #62 on:** September 01, 2009, 07:50:16 AM »

Since some of you guys are concerned about having to buy a collection again, what if you could unlock your cards online?

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #63 on:** September 01, 2009, 09:17:59 AM »

Quote from: mjwolfe on September 01, 2009, 01:10:51 AM

Well, you might get the cards in boosters you win in an online tournament. You might borrow them out of one of the other decks you've made. You might get a gift certificate for your birthday. Someone might trade them to you. You could keep the cards that you use in a Booster Draft event. The possibilities are almost endless.

I honestly don't know how many of those work with my deckbuilding style. I tend to try and make underused cards usable, meaning, I end up using a huge mix of cards. $:-\$

Quote from: metalpsalm on September 01, 2009, 03:01:33 AM

What if there were a "test garage" where you could build a deck, get percentages and stats about it, see how it draws out ect, and then decide to buy it or not?

Nope. I have to see it perform in a game.

Gabe · « **Reply #64 on:** September 01, 2009, 09:24:07 AM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on September 01, 2009, 09:17:59 AM

I honestly don't know how many of those work with my deckbuilding style. I tend to try and make underused cards usable, meaning, I end up using a huge mix of cards. $:-\$

That should make it extremely easy for you. Underused cards are worth a fraction of what the most sought after cards are worth. In fact, they're the type of cards that people often skoff at and give away.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #65 on:** September 01, 2009, 09:40:41 AM »

Ehhh, I still dislike having to pay anything if I don't even know if the deck will work. $:-\$

I wouldn't mind it at all if it worked where, you could get it for free and have all the same functionality of RTS, but then you could pay and get all the multiplayer, booster draft, and other game modes.

FresnoRedemption · « **Reply #66 on:** September 01, 2009, 10:00:45 AM »

Quote from: metalpsalm on September 01, 2009, 03:03:08 AM

Quote from: FresnoRedemption on September 01, 2009, 02:27:22 AM
Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on August 31, 2009, 10:00:10 PM
Hmm, it sounds neat but, for reasons I've stated before, RTS works fine for what I need it to do, and its free... $:-\$

Plus, I'm not sure how many people would like having to buy all 2000+ cards again.

Actually, this is the breaking point for me. If I had to pay a yearly fee (or perhaps even a monthly fee), I would probably consider paying for the service. But I can't justify buying all the cards again to play on-line (especially since all I'm really interested in is type-1 2-player and I can get that from RTS). I have a ton of physical cards, and aside from having to buy them all again, I don't know if I could justify spending money if I don't have a physical object to show for what I spent. So if this is the method of Redemption Live, I'll probably just stick with RTS.

what if you could opt to redeam the online cards for the physical cards being mailed to you?

I'm not sure this would solve anything, unless I could keep the on-line cards that I redeem for physical cards. If I couldn't, then I'm right back where I started in only buying the physical cards and not the on-line versions.

Bap7 · « **Reply #67 on:** September 01, 2009, 11:31:23 AM »

I would much rather pay a yearly fee of 20-35$ than paying for separate cards in a online world. With that said, if you DID do separate cards would they all be the same price or would the prices vary from how popular the card is? I think they should be the same price, like round 50 cents

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #68 on:** September 01, 2009, 11:42:48 AM »

Quote from: Bap7 on September 01, 2009, 11:31:23 AM

I would much rather pay a yearly fee of 20-35$ than paying for separate cards in a online world. With that said, if you DID do separate cards would they all be the same price or would the prices vary from how popular the card is? I think they should be the same price, like round 50 cents

56x.5 = 28 dollars, or $56 for a T2 deck. I think $0.50 would even be far too much.

The whole card list as is would cost you over $1000.

If it is a one time payment for the whole program, like $30-$40... I may get it.
If it is a subcription based fee or per card... then you all will have to enjoy it without me.

crustpope · « **Reply #69 on:** September 01, 2009, 11:58:09 AM »

Before I knew RTS2 was coming out I thought that a great idea for Rob would be to offer an online redemption where you could buy e-cards at insane prices (2-3 cents for commons 5 cents for uncommons, and up to 50 cents for rares. you could even have "redemption codes" for online cards in the blanks when you buy a pack ( say ecah pack comes with 2 free online commons and an online rare/UR redemption code) You could even redeem wrappers for onine cards at a reduced rate.

I think these would be great ideas for the new online card system. If they did this, I think they should still have a small fee for monthly play (say a premium add on toolbar for $3-5 a month) but it would also fix the problem of Plot abuse if you had to keep buying onine plots to take the place of the ones you ripped in games.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #70 on:** September 01, 2009, 01:05:04 PM »

Will there be a "burn" option for cards?

juhnkect · « **Reply #71 on:** September 01, 2009, 01:37:01 PM »

Quote from: lightningninja on August 31, 2009, 04:14:50 PM

As for cost... I heard it will be something like you buy a collection of cards on the site. You can buy packs or individual cards, obviously WAY cheaper than buying a real pack or a real don. But it's a great investment, once you have that card you can use it, in any and all deck.

That is an awful idea. Hopefully someone makes cheat codes

. I use RTS because I lost all my physical cards and can't afford to get back in to the game. oh dear. I guess Lambo and I will just play on RTS haha

Bap7 · « **Reply #72 on:** September 01, 2009, 03:02:27 PM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on September 01, 2009, 11:42:48 AM

Quote from: Bap7 on September 01, 2009, 11:31:23 AM
I would much rather pay a yearly fee of 20-35$ than paying for separate cards in a online world. With that said, if you DID do separate cards would they all be the same price or would the prices vary from how popular the card is? I think they should be the same price, like round 50 cents

56x.5 = 28 dollars, or $56 for a T2 deck. I think $0.50 would even be far too much.

The whole card list as is would cost you over $1000.

Yeah your right about that. I would prob get it if it was yearly, like xbox live

Ironica · « **Reply #73 on:** September 01, 2009, 03:28:13 PM »

Quote from: juhnkect on September 01, 2009, 01:37:01 PM

Quote from: lightningninja on August 31, 2009, 04:14:50 PM

As for cost... I heard it will be something like you buy a collection of cards on the site. You can buy packs or individual cards, obviously WAY cheaper than buying a real pack or a real don. But it's a great investment, once you have that card you can use it, in any and all deck.

That is an awful idea. Hopefully someone makes cheat codes . I use RTS because I lost all my physical cards and can't afford to get back in to the game. oh dear. I guess Lambo and I will just play on RTS haha

I'll join you two on RTS

.

I will most likely never play Redemption Live since it will cost something (especially if it cost per card). I am too casual to devote the money for ones and zeros and without actually having the cards in rl, the little money I have will not be able to help my playgroup or help in tournaments. I understand that it does have to cost so don't think I'm against the cost. I have given up online games that cost money to play (who knows how many hundreds of dollars I've used to play COX (which now I don't even play anymore and have almost nothing to show for it)) and rarely play online due to it taking time away from my lovely wife

. Anyways, I hope it's a great success but I will remain on RTS (especially since the main reason I use RTS is to make a deck and then figure out which cards I need to get to have that deck in rl.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #74 on:** September 01, 2009, 06:03:11 PM »

Quote from: Bap7 on September 01, 2009, 03:02:27 PM

like xbox live

This is also one of the many reasons I play PC over Xbox. But thats a different discussion.

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Author Topic: Redemption Table Simulator 2 (Read 18593 times)

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