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When people are running Hamachi 2, closing the application DOES NOT log you out to everyone.  You must hit the power button before closing Hamachi or you will be online but offline.  It's a silly bug that should be fixed.

whats the big deal? how is this any different than say, calling a persons cell phone and them not being there? if someone doesnt respond on hamachi, how is that exactly hurting you?

It's not that big a deal, and it's not "hurting" me.  I was just curious if anyone else experienced it, as well as wondering if it is for some other reason that I was unaware of. Please don't take offense as it's not directed at anyone in particular.
The main problem is that its discouraging from seeing people there but not really there...It makes finding a game difficult.

Hey,

whats the big deal? how is this any different than say, calling a persons cell phone and them not being there? if someone doesnt respond on hamachi, how is that exactly hurting you?

Hamachi doesn't automatically go to voice mail after 4 rings.  If I message someone and thirty seconds later haven't gotten a response, I figure they have not seen the window.  This could be because they are not logged on or it could be because they ran to the bathroom and will be back in a minute, or are finishing up a phone conversation and want to finish the conversation before they respond, or maybe they just didn't see the window appear at the bottom of their screen and in a minute when they do notice it they will respond.  If they will be right back I'd like to give them a couple minutes to get back and respond, if they will not be right back (they're not actually on) I'd like to move on and do something else.

I've personally decided that I'll give people five minutes to respond before assuming they aren't really online.  I have had experiences where I log in and ask one person for a game.  After five minutes they don't respond so I ask someone else.  After five minutes they don't respond so I ask someone else.  I've spent as much as 20 minutes doing this on more than one occasion only to find that everyone that it "logged in" really isn't.  I'm not just sitting around and waiting for 20 minutes when this happens, I'm reading the message board or checking my e-mail or wandering about some other parts of the internet, so I'm not entirely wasting 20 minutes.  But if I knew those people weren't there I could immediately go do something else and come back to look for a game at a different point, so it does hurt me a little.  It doesn't hurt me much, but it does hurt me more than it would hurt those other users to spend 2 seconds clicking the power button before they go to bed.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

This does happen to me as well, and I find it annoying.  In fact, I have a Hamachi room called "really logged in" that is designed to help with this.  People who are in that group do actually log out when they are away from their computers.  I just recently opened up some room in it (by moving out people who I don't remember seeing online in forever.  So if you want to have at least one group where you can trust what you see, feel free to join.  But only join with one account (Tracer, you had 2 previously, so they're gone now).

Group: really logged in
Password: really

I think this is just an annoyance.  The people who leave their hamachi up while not being there aren't purposefully doing so in order to annoy others, some people just don't take the time to close it.  Whether or not this breaks some unwritten code of conduct between hamachi users is debatable.