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RTS is now hamachi-less (LOBBY IN PUBLIC RELEASE)
« on: January 19, 2012, 05:55:12 PM »
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As some of you may have seen on my previous post, I have discovered a fix that removes the need for hamachi with RTS.

You can use RTS without hamachi using the new RTS lobby. The lobby can be found at http://play.redemptionconnect.com.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2012, 10:41:59 PM by LordZardeck »

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Re: Lobby vs Matchmaking
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2012, 06:01:43 PM »
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Both. Ranked and unranked.
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Re: Lobby vs Matchmaking
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2012, 06:05:08 PM »
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?Both?

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Re: Lobby vs Matchmaking
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2012, 06:06:47 PM »
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Re: Lobby vs Matchmaking
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2012, 06:10:19 PM »
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can we do this one at a time please? i'm not made of time ;-) I'm asking for which would be preferred over the other.

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Re: Lobby vs Matchmaking
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2012, 06:10:36 PM »
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Is it really an either/or situation?  If you're just looking to see which one you want to work on first, I'd go for lobbies.
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Re: Lobby vs Matchmaking
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2012, 06:11:31 PM »
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I would do a lobby to start.
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Re: Lobby vs Matchmaking
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2012, 06:12:02 PM »
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which one i'll work on first. But please note, i have other projects to do once I get the first one up. So it may be awhile before I can get both up.

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Re: Lobby vs Matchmaking
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2012, 06:35:10 PM »
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lobbies
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Re: Lobby vs Matchmaking
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2012, 06:56:46 PM »
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Is lobbies like hamachi it now, if so then yes lobbies.
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Re: Lobby vs Matchmaking
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2012, 07:01:39 PM »
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Is lobbies like hamachi it now, if so then yes lobbies.

yes, hamachi networks would be similar to a lobby

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Re: Lobby vs Matchmaking
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2012, 07:08:37 PM »
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Lobby, to set up ROOT games and such.

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Re: Lobby vs Matchmaking
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2012, 07:09:33 PM »
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Lobbies with ranked and unranked matches.
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Re: Lobby vs Matchmaking
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2012, 06:25:06 AM »
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The first thing we need is just a simple lobby where we can go to connect with other people who want to play.  This is what Hamachi gives us.

Later, it would be nice for the system to have an elo style point system that keeps track of a users wins and losses.  At this point it would be useful to have the ability to choose whether a game is ranked (affects your elo points) or unranked (does NOT affect your elo points).  This is what many other game sites do.

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Re: Lobby vs Matchmaking
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2012, 07:10:04 AM »
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You could do it like League of Legends. Where you either have the computer make matches or you could set up your own game and invite people to it.
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Re: Lobby vs Matchmaking
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2012, 11:10:50 AM »
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Well, lobbies it is then. However, due to some unfortunate circumstances with Amazon, I am no longer able to work on the hamachi-less fix and lobby system for now. Amazon has informed me, AFTER i received my first bill, that I am not eligible for their free tier cloud services. Until I am able to find a free/extremely cheap VPS service, I will  not be able to work on this project. I am terribly sorry.

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Re: Lobby vs Matchmaking
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2012, 11:30:53 AM »
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Well, lobbies it is then. However, due to some unfortunate circumstances with Amazon, I am no longer able to work on the hamachi-less fix and lobby system for now. Amazon has informed me, AFTER i received my first bill, that I am not eligible for their free tier cloud services. Until I am able to find a free/extremely cheap VPS service, I will  not be able to work on this project. I am terribly sorry.

What exactly do you NEED to host this? I still have 2.5 years left on my hosting account with GoDaddy. Unlimited bandwidth and storage + SSL.

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Re: Lobby vs Matchmaking
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2012, 12:39:36 PM »
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Basically a server with the ability to start it's own server software and daemon processes. This is usually VPS, CloudServer, or Dedicated Server.

In all reality though, I don't need much power. The code is 8 lines long at the moment. Will be a little more once I add the ability to use lobbies and such. But nevertheless, javascript is really lightweight.

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Re: Lobby vs Matchmaking
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2012, 01:07:42 PM »
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i probably do not meet your needs, I have GoDaddy's "Ultimate" web hosting plan see if that helps anything.

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Re: Lobby vs Matchmaking
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2012, 01:25:13 PM »
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i probably do not meet your needs, I have GoDaddy's "Ultimate" web hosting plan see if that helps anything.

Web hosting is shared hosting and is extremely limited. It's what I have with hostgator. Great for websites and web applications, but that's it.

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« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2012, 01:35:01 PM »
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i probably do not meet your needs, I have GoDaddy's "Ultimate" web hosting plan see if that helps anything.

Web hosting is shared hosting and is extremely limited. It's what I have with hostgator. Great for websites and web applications, but that's it.

Yeah I figured. I bought what I needed haha

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Re: Lobby vs Matchmaking
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2012, 04:08:44 PM »
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I am not eligible for their free tier cloud services.
Does this also mean the Card Creator will be going down?  And what was it that made you ineligible for their services?

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« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2012, 06:52:31 PM »
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I am not eligible for their free tier cloud services.
Does this also mean the Card Creator will be going down?  And what was it that made you ineligible for their services?

Sorry if that meant any confusion. The Card Designer runs off of Amazon's S3 storage servers. They will not be going down as at the moment they don't cost as much. CloudServers, however, cost $20 a month which is something I cannot afford.

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Re: Lobby vs Matchmaking
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2012, 04:16:06 AM »
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ok haha elo is a good system however there are some pretty huge problems.

The DCI (formerly Duelists' Convocation International) uses Elo ratings for tournaments of Magic: The Gathering and other Wizards of the Coast games. However, the DCI will be abandoning this system in 2012 in favour of a new cumulative system of "Planeswalker Points", chiefly because of the above-noted concern that Elo encourages highly rated players to avoid playing to "protect their rating.

this information is direct copy from wikipedia on elo ratings they do encourage high rank players to not play so i fear if we instituted this system we would see a decline of high calibur players at anything less then a regional a few might show at states but the highest ranked would only go to nationals. is this something we really wish to encourage.
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Re: Lobby vs Matchmaking
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2012, 10:16:40 AM »
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elo ratings they do encourage high rank players to not play so i fear if we instituted this system we would see a decline of high calibur players at anything less then a regional a few might show at states but the highest ranked would only go to nationals.
If someone played less often (especially only once a year at nationals), then they wouldn't keep up their skills, and would quickly cease to be a highly ranked player.  It's not like chess where the game doesn't change.  Redemption changes significantly every year with the new cards, and a player who doesn't play loses track of the meta, and gets behind.

 


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