Author Topic: HP? RIPPED FOR ONLINE? (Continued) (Read 20032 times)

Gabe · « **Reply #50 on:** March 06, 2009, 09:53:35 AM »

Instead of requiring a player to rip HP maybe we should just "restrict" it's use the way we do at real life tournaments.

Even at a high level tournament like Nationals, you can only check in 3 decks for T1-2P. That mean that you can rip no more than 3 Haman's Plots during that tournament. For ROOT we could enforce a limit of three HP's per tournament (or month) per player. It could be easily tracked if players were required to report the torn HP when they reported the score.

This way nobody has to worry about ripping cards. Nobody has to worry about mailing proof. Nobody has to worry about signing cards to prove it's actually the one you ripped. Nobody has to worry about not being able to play HP because they don't own one. And we mirror a real life tournament more closely.

Ironica · « **Reply #51 on:** March 06, 2009, 09:55:20 AM »

Quote from: BrianGabe on March 06, 2009, 09:53:35 AM

Instead of requiring a player to rip HP maybe we should just "restrict" it's use the way we do at real life tournaments.

Even at a high level tournament like Nationals, you can only check in 3 decks for T1-2P. That mean that you can rip no more than 3 Haman's Plots during that tournament. For ROOT we could enforce a limit of three HP's per tournament (or month) per player. It could be easily tracked if players were required to report the torn HP when they reported the score.

This way nobody has to worry about ripping cards. Nobody has to worry about mailing proof. Nobody has to worry about signing cards to prove it's actually the one you ripped. Nobody has to worry about not being able to play HP because they don't own one. And we mirror a real life tournament more closely.

(especially since HP is one of my main trading cards

)

soul seeker · « **Reply #52 on:** March 06, 2009, 10:05:14 AM »

Quote from: BrianGabe on March 06, 2009, 09:53:35 AM

Instead of requiring a player to rip HP maybe we should just "restrict" it's use the way we do at real life tournaments.

Even at a high level tournament like Nationals, you can only check in 3 decks for T1-2P. That mean that you can rip no more than 3 Haman's Plots during that tournament. For ROOT we could enforce a limit of three HP's per tournament (or month) per player. It could be easily tracked if players were required to report the torn HP when they reported the score.

This way nobody has to worry about ripping cards. Nobody has to worry about mailing proof. Nobody has to worry about signing cards to prove it's actually the one you ripped. Nobody has to worry about not being able to play HP because they don't own one. And we mirror a real life tournament more closely.

I like Gabe's idea...in a month's time, the max number of games is 12. You only get to use 3 plots or 2 because this is equivalent to a district? I could keep a running track beside their names or at the bottom. It should be easy enough.

To Cameron and Matt (crustpope), SoT is official now...we just call it ROOT and it has it's own sticky under Official Tournaments. I consider it the same tourney because it is under the same management and same rules. We are just sponsored now. Because of the sponsorship by Cactus is why this discussion is being had for the 3rd time.

Gabe · « **Reply #53 on:** March 06, 2009, 10:13:47 AM »

Quote from: soul seeker on March 06, 2009, 10:05:14 AM

...in a month's time, the max number of games is 12. You only get to use 3 plots or 2 because this is equivalent to a district? I could keep a running track beside their names or at the bottom. It should be easy enough.

The way we determine how many decks a person can register in a real tournament (thus the number of HPs they can potentially rip) is by the number of rounds that will be played. Even at a districts if there were going to be enough rounds you could register 3 decks and rip three HPs. I forget if the cut off between registering 2 or 3 decks is 5 or 6 rounds (or games in this case). Either way a month of ROOT offers more than that.

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #54 on:** March 06, 2009, 10:14:27 AM »

I also like this idea of Gabe's. It seems to be a good compromise.

SirNobody · « **Reply #55 on:** March 06, 2009, 11:21:46 AM »

Hey,

Quote from: BrianGabe on March 06, 2009, 08:49:24 AM

We're talking about ROOT. It's official. It's sancationed. There are RNRS points.

There really aren't RNRS points. We can call them RNRS points, but they don't count towards any of the existing six categories and there is no established prize as of yet for the person that accumulates the most in a years time. So they don't have anything in common with RNRS points as we know them.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

777Godspeed · « **Reply #56 on:** March 06, 2009, 08:15:54 PM »

could it possibly be called ROOTNRS?

Redemption Official Online Tournament National Ranking System.

Godspeed,
Mike

New Raven BR · « **Reply #57 on:** March 06, 2009, 09:04:19 PM »

ROFL!!!
that's clever, mike

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #58 on:** March 06, 2009, 10:51:22 PM »

Quote from: SirNobody on March 06, 2009, 11:21:46 AM

There really aren't RNRS points. We can call them RNRS points...

Well since Rob called them RNRS points when I talked to him, I think that is good enough for me. You are right that they are in a separate (7th) category, but they are still RNRS.

I know it's new, so I understand your confusion.

P.S. As for Gabe's suggestion about reporting HP usage with the scores, that is just a bit more trouble for Soul Seeker to keep track of, but if he's willing to do it, then I would be fine with that as a solution if that is the final decision.

Tsavong Lah · « **Reply #59 on:** March 16, 2009, 03:57:42 PM »

Just to chime in, since I'll hopefully be able to dive back in to online play in a couple months when school slows down:

I really like Gabe's idea. It restricts people who have a zillion HPs and can play them every game, but it allows new players to use (and learn) a powerful card once in a while. This is still an online tournament, and I think ripping HPs outside of a physical tournament setting is silly. If we're voting, allowing three HPs a month and posting a usage along with the game scores definitely has my support.

crustpope · « **Reply #60 on:** March 20, 2009, 08:12:49 PM »

So have we decided anything about this? What are we doing w HP?

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #61 on:** March 20, 2009, 11:37:02 PM »

Quote from: crustpope on March 20, 2009, 08:12:49 PM

So have we decided anything about this? What are we doing w HP?

This is still an issue that we are looking at, and are open to input on. I suspect that we will announce the decision at the start of the next round so that the rule will be consistent throughout the tournament.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #62 on:** March 21, 2009, 07:09:35 AM »

Well since a rule like that is virtually impossible to enforce, I say just ban HP for online.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #63 on:** March 21, 2009, 07:42:08 AM »

At this point they are looking for new ideas. Saying the same thing over and over is not a new idea. You have given your input and it has not gone unnoticed. Everyone's input is valuable in the decision-making process. However, now that you've said it, please stop repeating it.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #64 on:** March 21, 2009, 09:48:09 AM »

...What are you talking about?

thestrongangel · « **Reply #65 on:** March 21, 2009, 09:53:00 AM »

Quote from: BubbleBoy on March 21, 2009, 07:09:35 AM

Well since a rule like that is virtually impossible to enforce, I say just ban HP for online.

No! Thats ridiculous. It shouldnt have to be ripped in person in the first place.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #66 on:** March 21, 2009, 09:53:42 AM »

It shouldn't have been made in the first place.

thestrongangel · « **Reply #67 on:** March 21, 2009, 09:57:23 AM »

Well sorry...it was

Now, Angry Mob shouldnt have been made.

New Raven BR · « **Reply #68 on:** March 21, 2009, 11:26:08 AM »

Quote from: Rrulez4theSA on March 21, 2009, 09:57:23 AM

Well sorry...it was

Now, Angry Mob shouldnt have been made.

aw come on.
angry mob is what ties my two faced deck together.
flip of a coin and "heads: you get to keep your head, Tails: not so lucky"

Gabe · « **Reply #69 on:** March 21, 2009, 02:44:36 PM »

Quote from: Sean on March 21, 2009, 11:19:53 AM

Why don't we just ask Rob what he wants to be done? That would settle any and all arguments. Whether people agree or disagree, frankly, wouldn't matter.

We've checked with Rob to see if he feels strongly about a couple topics (Haman's Plot included) and he's leaving it up to the people he's entrusted to run the tournament. His only strong feeling on the matter is that he doesn't want to see any cards banned.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #70 on:** March 21, 2009, 03:24:37 PM »

I would either like the old rule reinstated (due to it being completely official, and no longer just a supported catagory) or there to be a limiter per month. Like say 2?

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #71 on:** March 22, 2009, 08:01:23 AM »

Hm...a twice a month rule wouldn't be completely uninforcable; the opponent of the player could report whether he used HP.

crustpope · « **Reply #72 on:** March 22, 2009, 05:55:15 PM »

Yeah, that was what I was thinking. just every time you report a score, report a HP score with it lol. I beat Soul Seeker 5-0 and played `1 hamans plot or something like that.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #73 on:** March 22, 2009, 06:14:39 PM »

A more reliable option would be to have the opponent report a HP used against them, since they are more likely to remember.

ender17 · « **Reply #74 on:** March 23, 2009, 02:53:31 PM »

I fully agree with the limit on hp rather than
banning or requiring it to be torn.

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