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Re: ROOT-Thoughts on sideboard-best 2/3 games?
« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2013, 01:00:04 PM »
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A 'game' in Redemption has always equated to the entire match between 2 people, regardless of how many games are played within that match.

That's probably because a game has always been the entire match.  Best 2 of 3 was never used back when those rules were written. 

And it's not fair to use the word "match", since it never appears in the rules thread; only the word "game".  Perhaps "game" means "match", but since there were no "matches" back then, I don't think it unreasonable that most players thought "2 hours per game" meant "2 hours per game" instead of "2 hours per match".

At any rate, it didn't affect the outcome, right?  No one complained about a difference of views and claimed that someone should have timed out or not.  At this point, a clause should be inserted in the rules thread explaining the difference between games and matches, since best 2 of 3 could appear again in the future of ROOT.
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Re: ROOT-Thoughts on sideboard-best 2/3 games?
« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2013, 01:01:46 PM »
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Except there's never been a format of best 2 out of 3 in Redemption. Had I been playing, I would have assumed each game could be 2 hours. (If it had stated "2 hours per match" then I would agree with MKC).

In any case, the time is obviously an issue. If I were to participate in a future 2 out of 3 tournament, I would propose an overall limit of 2 hours, 15 minutes (3 45 minute games essentially).

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Re: ROOT-Thoughts on sideboard-best 2/3 games?
« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2013, 01:13:41 PM »
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The definition is apparently open up to multiple interpretations; however, the logic behind 2 hours behind each individual game doesn't support what is in the rules and what has been done for the past months, even years. A 'game' has always equated to have been an entire 'match' between two players in Redemption terms, regardless of what extra special rules are applied to it during a specific ROOT month, up to and including multiple games per match. Adding in the fact absolutely nothing was explicitly expressed that a match would be entitled to 6 hours, a glaring change from the status quo, I'm just not seeing the logical leap towards connecting the dots for extended play time. 6 hours is simply a ludicrous and quite frankly unbelievable expectation out of anyone for ROOT.
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Re: ROOT-Thoughts on sideboard-best 2/3 games?
« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2013, 01:29:30 PM »
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FWIW, my understanding was also that you play best 2 out of 3 games, with a 2 hour limit per game. That best 2/3 was a match.

In any case, the time is obviously an issue. If I were to participate in a future 2 out of 3 tournament, I would propose an overall limit of 2 hours, 15 minutes (3 45 minute games essentially).
There's no reason all 3 games should go full time. 1 1/2-2 hours is the longest a 2/3 would need to be, especially in a top cut format. This also adds more strategy to scooping.

Though again, it'd have to be top cut. Anything else is ridiculous. The problem is that RTS can't equate to real life in this senario. With rules (i.e. sideboard) it does, but with the time issue that 2/3 brings, IRL will work much more smoothly, which is why I'm 100% behind it.

 


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