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Here is a sample of a 12-player tourny:

Week 1 Game 1

PLAYER A 1-0
PLAYER B 1-0
PLAYER C 1-0
PLAYER D 1-0
PLAYER E 1-0
PLAYER F 1-0
PLAYER G 0-1
PLAYER H 0-1
PLAYER I 0-1
PLAYER J 0-1
PLAYER K 0-1
PLAYER L 0-1

Week 1 Game 2

PLAYER A 2-0
PLAYER B 2-0
PLAYER C 2-0
PLAYER D 1-1
PLAYER E 1-1
PLAYER F 1-1
PLAYER G 1-1
PLAYER H 1-1
PLAYER I 1-1
PLAYER J 0-2
PLAYER K 0-2
PLAYER L 0-2

Week 2 Game 1

PLAYER A 3-0
PLAYER B 3-0
PLAYER C 2-1
PLAYER D 2-1
PLAYER E 2-1
PLAYER F 2-1
PLAYER G 1-2
PLAYER H 1-2
PLAYER I 1-2
PLAYER J 1-2
PLAYER K 0-3
PLAYER L 0-3

Week 2 Game 2

PLAYER A 4-0
PLAYER B 3-1
PLAYER C 3-1
PLAYER D 3-1
PLAYER E 2-2
PLAYER F 2-2
PLAYER G 2-2
PLAYER H 2-2
PLAYER I 1-3
PLAYER J 1-3
PLAYER K 1-3
PLAYER L 0-4

Week 3 Game 1

PLAYER A 5-0
PLAYER B 4-1
PLAYER C 3-2
PLAYER D 3-2
PLAYER E 3-2
PLAYER F 3-2
PLAYER G 2-3
PLAYER H 2-3
PLAYER I 2-3
PLAYER J 2-3
PLAYER K 2-3
PLAYER L 0-5

Week 3 Game 2

PLAYER A 6-0
PLAYER B 4-2
PLAYER C 4-2
PLAYER D 3-3
PLAYER E 3-3
PLAYER F 3-3
PLAYER G 3-3
PLAYER H 3-3
PLAYER I 3-3
PLAYER J 2-4
PLAYER K 2-4
PLAYER L 0-6

Week 4 Game 1

PLAYER A 6-1
PLAYER B 5-2
PLAYER C 4-3
PLAYER D 4-3
PLAYER E 4-3
PLAYER F 4-3
PLAYER G 4-3
PLAYER H 3-4
PLAYER I 3-4
PLAYER J 2-5
PLAYER K 2-5
PLAYER L 1-6

Week 4 Game 2

PLAYER A 6-1 vs PLAYER B 5-2
PLAYER C 4-3 vs PLAYER D 4-3
PLAYER E 4-3 vs PLAYER F 4-3
PLAYER G 4-3 vs PLAYER H 3-4
PLAYER I 3-4  vs PLAYER J 2-5
PLAYER K 2-5 vs PLAYER L 1-6

PLAYER A 6-1 vs PLAYER B 5-2 for the championship
PLAYER C 4-3 vs PLAYER D 4-3 for 3rd Place
etc, etc, etc.

This sample will setup 6 final games and determine the final seeds:

1st and 2nd Place
3rd and 4th Place
5th and 6th Place
7th and 8th Place
9th and 10th Place
11th and 12th Place

If 2 players, in W4G2, are matched up end up with the same record and are even against each other in Head to Head, then LS differental is the final tie breaker. What do you guys think?

P.S. I just used the records after the games for the first 7 games to save some time. It would always be top records vs top records all the way down.

It's definitely an idea to consider, and it has been discussed in the past; the problem is that enough people have trouble with finding time for one official game each week, much less two with a midweek deadline. Also, since there is currently only one active administrator of the tournament, who happens to be a married graduate student, that would be way too much to keep up with. The current format is actually pretty good at determining an outright winner IMO. The winner for this month, Polarius, went undefeated in all of his official games, and played everyone else in the top eight at least once in an official game.

It would be great if a format like you suggest would work, but for now I think there are enough reasons that it won't.

Basically, what Pol just said.

While ideally a better system, it's a logistical nightmare. People often have a hard enough time scheduling a game with a whole week, let alone 3 days, and the extra work the organizers would have to do to essentially set up 4 times as many matches would be a major headache. I don't think there's anything wrong with the current system. Last month, 1st and 2nd place were undefeated in Swiss and their Challenges, so I'd say the rankings reflect who really won.

you would.

The Wednesday deadline is the killer. Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday tend to be very unavailable. Most of the official games I played the last two months were played on weekends, because that's when most people have the most time available.

That's cool man, thanks for at least checking my idea out.