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There is a ton of art being used now that wasn't used before and art that is a really cool throw back on cards that see little play.I definitely dig the fine art being used now days that we didn't see much of before but also the very cool kid friendly comic styles. Overall I love the diversity of the artwork in the game and have almost never found the artwork to be a barrier in card recognition during play.Hope you've seen the new set! Great artwork in it as well! :-) All of the cards are alternate border in this one and they look awesome!
Can you give some examples? In general we rarely reuse old art on a new and different card. When we do we try to ensure that the old card that used it is one that really doesn't get used (and probably never did).
Quote from: Gabe on April 24, 2018, 09:16:37 AMCan you give some examples? In general we rarely reuse old art on a new and different card. When we do we try to ensure that the old card that used it is one that really doesn't get used (and probably never did).Sure:Babylon / The Harlot > Babylon the GreatDragon's Minion (RoJ)> Ancient Evil (Black Enhancement)Terrifying Beast (RoA) > Wrath of SatanFourth Seal/Death (RoJ) > Death and Hades (War)Blashemies (RoJ) > Beast from the Sea (Original)The Deceiver (RoJ) > Number of the Beast (War)There was quite a bit more, but this punctuates the O.P. point.KeithSon, exonerated from bondage (S.E.B.)
So your example is showing you are upset by 2 characters being updated? Death & Babylon the Harlot are updated versions, so using the same art makes since. Also every other example you gave is a character and enhancement with the same picture. I don't know how you can confuse these given the fact they have different symbols on them and they have to be played (during games) at different times.
For pretty much all of those examples, the original cards never see play with the exception of Wrath of Satan.The Revelation of John set was in some ways a "Warriors 2.0" set in that so many of the cards were pulled from Revelation. Using some of that great artwork from those old Warriors cards (that otherwise just sit in the bottom of the "free box") seemed like a great way to help our "budget" while using quality pieces.Personally I love re-using great artwork on new and improved versions of cards that I will actually use for my decks. A few of my favorite examples are Abaddon the Destroyer (RoJ) and Red Dragon (RoJ).
Nobody plays Babylon the Great, Ancient Evil, Beast from the Sea or Number of the Beast unless they are literally the only card they have.
Quote from: Crashfach2002 on April 24, 2018, 10:56:19 AMNobody plays Babylon the Great, Ancient Evil, Beast from the Sea or Number of the Beast unless they are literally the only card they have. But what about when they come out as Legacy Rares in the future Cruft of Our Fathers set?
Also every other example you gave is a character and enhancement with the same picture. I don't know how you can confuse these given the fact they have different symbols on them and they have to be played (during games) at different times.
Quote from: Crashfach2002 on April 24, 2018, 10:56:19 AMAlso every other example you gave is a character and enhancement with the same picture. I don't know how you can confuse these given the fact they have different symbols on them and they have to be played (during games) at different times.Yes the information is there, but Think of my point like this: if you reorder the positions of a stoplight, people will still stop when it is Red no matter if it's the top or the bottom. People are visually driven.
Quote from: SEB on April 24, 2018, 11:18:55 AMQuote from: Crashfach2002 on April 24, 2018, 10:56:19 AMAlso every other example you gave is a character and enhancement with the same picture. I don't know how you can confuse these given the fact they have different symbols on them and they have to be played (during games) at different times.Yes the information is there, but Think of my point like this: if you reorder the positions of a stoplight, people will still stop when it is Red no matter if it's the top or the bottom. People are visually driven.You may not purchase the Old "Babylon the Great." But if there was an updated version (like many cards have had), you would buy that I think? My point is the art for Babylon the Great, needs to stay with that title. (Note: im not trying to troll, im genuinely interested)
That is a noble idea, but extremely frustrating for those new to the game. Really, it produces unnecessary confusion. In every card game that I have played (or boardgame with cards), the name of the Card and art of the card are an unbroken link. Expected Industry Standard: artwork should only be used for a single titled card, but a titled card can have more than one artwork issued. This may not be an issue for you, but for those who are stepped in TCGs, it is.The reason I bring this up: I like to use Redemption to reach gamers who are not in God's Kingdom. When an expected requirement of a TCG is missed, it can often turn from a door to a wall.
I know it's just my opinion, but when making new reprints of old cards, I'd often prefer updated, reworked, or new art over the old art. Along with The Guardian, I have never heard anyone bring this up before. Most people that I've talked to like new art or reusing old art on different cards.
Babylon/The Harlot IS the reprint of Babylon the Great. The game has changed a lot in the last twenty years; it's referencing the same thing, but now that character/event is printed in a way that is relevant to both the story and the game.
