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Which is the better Redemption hero?

Susanna
29 (53.7%)
Captain of the Host
25 (46.3%)

Total Members Voted: 46

Voting closed: March 28, 2011, 01:29:17 AM

Author Topic: The Final Four - Susanna or Captain of the Host  (Read 4057 times)

Offline Bryon

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The Final Four - Susanna or Captain of the Host
« on: March 25, 2011, 01:29:17 AM »
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Which is the better Redemption hero?

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Re: The Final Four - Susanna or Captain of the Host
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2011, 10:16:29 AM »
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Everybody who voted for Susanna against Thad should vote Susanna again. There is no way Captain is better than Thad. There is no way Captain is better than Susanna.

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Re: The Final Four - Susanna or Captain of the Host
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2011, 10:40:23 AM »
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Everybody who voted for Susanna against Thad should vote Susanna again. There is no way Captain is better than Thad. There is no way Captain is better than Susanna.
That's what I did.  However, how ironic would it be if Jacob went up against Captain.  Despite my vote for Susanna, I think that would be pretty funny.
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Re: The Final Four - Susanna or Captain of the Host
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2011, 11:22:48 AM »
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I had all of the final four correct until one of our players decided to vote against Thad (to his own loss) to stop me from getting the points as well.  Grrrr.....
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Re: The Final Four - Susanna or Captain of the Host
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2011, 04:19:04 PM »
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Voting for Captain because Thad should be here instead of Susanna. >:(
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Re: The Final Four - Susanna or Captain of the Host
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2011, 04:22:23 PM »
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And The Generous Widow should be against Jacob instead of Moses.

And you'd be supporting Thad by voting for Susanna. He totally would have won if not for her.

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Re: The Final Four - Susanna or Captain of the Host
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2011, 06:44:13 PM »
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Susanna isn't that good.

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Re: The Final Four - Susanna or Captain of the Host
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2011, 09:00:09 PM »
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I voted for CotH because Bryon's reasons for voting her way on the tiebreak were bogus (her art? come on).
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Re: The Final Four - Susanna or Captain of the Host
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2011, 10:43:29 PM »
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I actually think she is op'd compared to Thad but hey that just me :p
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Re: The Final Four - Susanna or Captain of the Host
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2011, 10:57:12 PM »
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I voted for CotH because Bryon's reasons for voting her way on the tiebreak were bogus (her art? come on).
It's funny that your reason for choosing CotH are more bogus than mine were for choosing Susanna.  :)

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Re: The Final Four - Susanna or Captain of the Host
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2011, 12:01:31 AM »
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I'm not going to vote for someone who doesn't deserve to be here. Not bogus at all.
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!

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Re: The Final Four - Susanna or Captain of the Host
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2011, 12:05:05 AM »
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Captain should have lost to TSA.

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Re: The Final Four - Susanna or Captain of the Host
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2011, 01:17:41 AM »
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Captain should have lost to TSA.
Agreed.  I think TSA > Captain > Susanna.  According to Pol, that means I should vote for Susanna!  ;)

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Re: The Final Four - Susanna or Captain of the Host
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2011, 01:57:31 AM »
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Winks and anecdotes aside, I maintain my position that it was pretty dumb to decide a tie of who's the best Hero based on criteria that have nothing to do with gameplay.
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!

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Re: The Final Four - Susanna or Captain of the Host
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2011, 02:28:03 AM »
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Go Susanna all the way. Doesn't matter, Susanna is my new favorite card. No one can beat her.
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Re: The Final Four - Susanna or Captain of the Host
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2011, 02:50:31 AM »
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Winks and anecdotes aside, I maintain my position that it was pretty dumb to decide a tie of who's the best Hero based on criteria that have nothing to do with gameplay.
I think "dumb" might be too strong a word, even if I did decide the tie "based on criteria that have nothing to do with gameplay."  But calling my actions "dumb" is only one of your mistakes.  The other was missing the list of criteria that did have to do with game play.  Did you think that my list of gameplay reasons had nothing to do with my decision?

IIRC, I specified at least 3 gameplay releated reasons why I liked Susanna.  Plus, I like her art.  In my opinion, I don't find that dumb.  There had already been about 4 pages of back-and-forth regarding which hero was better from a gameplay perspective.  I listed some gameplay reasons why I thought Susanna was better, and I menioned I liked her art.  I was breaking a tie in a poll that I set up for FUN.  :)

Now, I would have voted for Susanna over Thaddeus on gameplay alone (for the reasons I listed and more), but there are times when I may decide a tie simply based on art.  For example, as much as I like Provisions for gameplay purposes, I'm not going to have Provisions beat AoCp if they came down to a tie.  That they both have amazing gameplay value is pretty obvious.  But of those two, only AoCp is obviously pretty.

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Re: The Final Four - Susanna or Captain of the Host
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2011, 10:36:22 AM »
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I could never* vote for Susanna knowing that (a misguided) love for her turned a father against his own son.  She should gain the identifier "Home wrecker."    :P

*Oooops.  I did vote for her originally, but now that I realize the sanctity of the family is at stake I reversed my vote.
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Re: The Final Four - Susanna or Captain of the Host
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2011, 10:56:50 AM »
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Susanna's for the byrds:

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Re: The Final Four - Susanna or Captain of the Host
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2011, 12:24:56 AM »
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Susanna is critical for TGT.  CotH is critical for Angels.  TGT is stronger than Angels.
Natural Brigade Point = Susanna.

Susanna is probably not going to get splashed into anything.  CotH is splashed into everything.
Splashibility Point = CotH.

Susanna is great at not only helping the offense by getting good cards out of your deck, but also your defense by hiding LSs.  CotH is only good at stopping SAs other than banding.
Versatility Point = Susanna.

Susanna can't win by herself, she needs GEs.  CotH often wins battles all by himself.
Raw Power Point = CotH.

Captain's win for splashibility is the biggest of all, since he is the definition of that category.  I gotta go with him.

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Re: The Final Four - Susanna or Captain of the Host
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2011, 12:35:42 AM »
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You forgot the coolest special ability point.  ::)

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Re: The Final Four - Susanna or Captain of the Host
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2011, 12:40:40 AM »
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You forgot the coolest special ability point.  ::)

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Re: The Final Four - Susanna or Captain of the Host
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2011, 12:53:55 AM »
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You forgot the coolest special ability point.  ::)
Although I've gotta go with Captain on the art.
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Re: The Final Four - Susanna or Captain of the Host
« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2011, 12:07:38 PM »
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I think Captain

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Re: The Final Four - Susanna or Captain of the Host
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2011, 10:04:57 PM »
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Yeah, because you are Gabriel, Angel team over here. ML.
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