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Which is the best Redemption hero?

Moses
27 (49.1%)
Jacob
28 (50.9%)

Total Members Voted: 47

Voting closed: March 28, 2011, 01:26:54 AM

Author Topic: The Final Four - Moses or Jacob  (Read 8767 times)

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Re: The Final Four - Moses or Jacob
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2011, 03:48:32 PM »
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So...anybody change their vote because of our flawless* logic** yet?

*Okay, so it's not flawless. But it's Moses. That's good enough for me.
**As if anything Sauce and I say could be logic....

I honestly think if people read this thread they would vote Moses.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2011, 11:54:24 PM by Ring Wraith »

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Re: The Final Four - Moses or Jacob
« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2011, 02:32:27 AM »
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Moses all the way, I am judging all the heroes by it's effect, and I am looking at which card I use in most of my deck, in this case is going to be Moses. Although last tournament during teams, somebody Jacob- Obedience of Noah- Damsel with the Spirit and Rain become dusts me. Jacob is alright, but is only for my Genesis deck. Thanks.
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Re: The Final Four - Moses or Jacob
« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2011, 02:56:06 AM »
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Eve has the distinction of speeding up your defense as well.  Gold speeds up your opponent.

Moses saw God's backside.  Jacob actually fought with an Angel.

Also: Despite being the leader, Moses lost his temper, and became the first person to literally break God's law.

Actually, Jesus was the OT version of Jesus.

If there is a tie in this poll, I'm voting for SomeKittens!  :)

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Re: The Final Four - Moses or Jacob
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2011, 07:52:24 AM »
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Okay......seriously.  On principle and practicality alone, this will be a boring tournament if Moses gets through.  Susanna will just beat down two FBTN people in a row.  Let's mix it up and have a Jacob versus Susanna.
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Re: The Final Four - Moses or Jacob
« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2011, 09:40:08 AM »
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Okay......seriously.  On principle and practicality alone, this will be a boring tournament if Moses gets through.  Susanna will just beat down two FBTN people in a row.  Let's mix it up and have a Jacob versus Susanna.
Getting desperate for votes? Coming to your senses that Moses is actually better? Susanna will stomp any hero because she's the best. Other than maybe The Generous Widow.
Moses saw God's backside.  Jacob actually fought with an Angel.

Also: Despite being the leader, Moses lost his temper, and became the first person to literally break God's law.

Actually, Jesus was the OT version of Jesus.

If there is a tie in this poll, I'm voting for SomeKittens!  :)
The first quote was lame. Again I say, seeing part of God>wrestling an angel. I'm pretty sure his anger was just though. Although breaking the law might have overdone it a bit...
The second quote was epic.

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Re: The Final Four - Moses or Jacob
« Reply #30 on: March 26, 2011, 10:35:45 AM »
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Moses:

FBTN
Transfiguration
Yellow
8/8
Musicianandtwobillionotheridentifiers
Can be splashed

Jacob:

Bands to an Angel or plays the first enhancement
Recur with Asher and Levi
Blue
6/5
Can Be Splashed

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Re: The Final Four - Moses or Jacob
« Reply #31 on: March 26, 2011, 11:51:21 PM »
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25/25. Epic.

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Re: The Final Four - Moses or Jacob
« Reply #32 on: March 26, 2011, 11:55:19 PM »
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Re: The Final Four - Moses or Jacob
« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2011, 12:07:57 AM »
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Okay......seriously.  On principle and practicality alone, this will be a boring tournament if Moses gets through.  Susanna will just beat down two FBTN people in a row.  Let's mix it up and have a Jacob versus Susanna.
Getting desperate for votes? Coming to your senses that Moses is actually better?
Not desperate, just dumbfounded that a) there are that many Minnesotans compared to other players Nationwide and b) people are not recognizing Jacob's awesomeness.   

I wanted people to see the fallacy of voting for Moses.  Stating facts is not the same as desperation.  People should know all the facts about how great a hero Jacob is.
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Re: The Final Four - Moses or Jacob
« Reply #34 on: March 27, 2011, 12:11:58 AM »
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In that post you mentioned 0 out of 1 facts that would help Jacob win.

Jacob is awesome, just not as awesome as Moses.

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Re: The Final Four - Moses or Jacob
« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2011, 12:14:47 AM »
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Jacob is critical in a Genesis deck.  Moses is critical in a Judges deck.  Genesis is stronger than Judges.
Natural Brigade Point = Jacob.

Jacob is great in a Silver deck and a speed deck.  Moses is good in a white deck and a speed deck.
Splashibility Point = tie.

Jacob can be FBN by banding to CotH or playing Abe's Servant, but he can also do other things like CTB, Ignore, Band, and steal sites.  Moses is FBN.
Versatility Point = Jacob.

Jacob can't win battles by himself, he needs GEs or other heroes.  Moses can win battles all by himself.
Raw Power = Moses.

Winner (2.5-1.5) = Jacob

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Re: The Final Four - Moses or Jacob
« Reply #36 on: March 27, 2011, 12:27:30 AM »
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To me, Battle by number always the best unless Jacob is cannot be negated. Moses is not just for Judges Deck. Moses is good for battle by numbers deck, white deck, judges, prophets. much more deck than Jacob can be in. Thanks.

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Re: The Final Four - Moses or Jacob
« Reply #37 on: March 27, 2011, 12:33:02 AM »
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Jacob is critical in a Genesis deck.  Moses is critical in a Judges deck.  Genesis is stronger than Judges.
Natural Brigade Point = Jacob.
Look outside the themes. My experience is that gold's strongest when it doesn't have one theme. Genesis is stronger than judges, but gold is stronger than blue.

Jacob is great in a Silver deck and a speed deck.  Moses is good in a white deck and a speed deck.
Splashibility Point = tie.
Jacob is only good in a Silver deck for banding to CoTH. Moses is good in any white deck (Transfig), a musicians deck (11/7 FBTN is wicked, and being able to play any musical enhancement? Awesome.), speed decks, and FBTN decks.

Jacob can be FBN by banding to CotH or playing Abe's Servant, but he can also do other things like CTB, Ignore, Band, and steal sites.  Moses is FBN.
Versatility Point = Jacob.
I'll give you this one.

Jacob can't win battles by himself, he needs GEs or other heroes.  Moses can win battles all by himself.
Raw Power = Moses.

Winner (2.5-1.5) = Jacob

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Re: The Final Four - Moses or Jacob
« Reply #38 on: March 27, 2011, 10:20:20 AM »
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Jacob is critical in a Genesis deck.  Moses is critical in a Judges deck. Moses is useful in a splash deck. Moses is useful in a Musicians deck. Moses is useful in a FBTN deck.            Splash>FBTN>Genesis>Musicians>Judges
Natural Brigade Point = Moses

Jacob is great in a Silver deck and a speed deck.  Moses is good in any deck.
Splashibility Point = Moses

Jacob can be FBN by banding to CotH or playing Abe's Servant, but he can also do other things like CTB, Ignore, Band, and steal sites.  Moses is FBN.
Versatility Point = Jacob

Jacob can't win battles by himself, he needs GEs or other heroes.  Moses can win battles all by himself.
Raw Power = Moses

Winner (3-1) = Jacob

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Re: The Final Four - Moses or Jacob
« Reply #39 on: March 27, 2011, 12:01:02 PM »
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I do like Jacob but him and Moses aren't my favorite. I think I like Paul oR Mike or maybe Gabriel WARRIORS. But I am not a Battle by numbers Guy I like when the enhancements' SA kicks in.

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Re: The Final Four - Moses or Jacob
« Reply #40 on: March 27, 2011, 12:57:16 PM »
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These final fours are boring...

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Re: The Final Four - Moses or Jacob
« Reply #41 on: March 27, 2011, 01:03:16 PM »
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These final fours are boring...

The real ones will be, too.
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Re: The Final Four - Moses or Jacob
« Reply #42 on: March 27, 2011, 01:04:03 PM »
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There's probably a program that would make it look like each hero was a llama, and then Bryon would enter the data, and we could watch them race to see the winner.

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Re: The Final Four - Moses or Jacob
« Reply #43 on: March 27, 2011, 02:39:03 PM »
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These final fours are boring...

The real ones will be, too.

Hey now!  Watch it!  If my Tarheels make it, then it will be anything but boring.  (At least on the one side.) 

I can't help that the West Coast doesn't know how to play basketball.   :P
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Re: The Final Four - Moses or Jacob
« Reply #44 on: March 27, 2011, 02:46:28 PM »
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These final fours are boring...

The real ones will be, too.

Hey now!  Watch it!  If my Tarheels make it, then it will be anything but boring.  (At least on the one side.) 

I can't help that the West Coast doesn't know how to play basketball.   :P

Of course, last year's champion needed help from a west coast player, Singler.  And he wasn't even our state's best player.  That distinction goes to Kevin Love.  ;)
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Re: The Final Four - Moses or Jacob
« Reply #45 on: March 27, 2011, 02:52:38 PM »
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There's probably a program that would make it look like each hero was a llama, and then Bryon would enter the data, and we could watch them race to see the winner.
The domain name llamaracer.com is available, fyi.

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Re: The Final Four - Moses or Jacob
« Reply #46 on: March 27, 2011, 02:55:20 PM »
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as is llamaburger.com.
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Re: The Final Four - Moses or Jacob
« Reply #47 on: March 27, 2011, 03:28:25 PM »
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Butler versus VCU will be interesting. I'm rooting for VCU.

Somebody should create that program and snatch up that domain name. We'd make millions.

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Re: The Final Four - Moses or Jacob
« Reply #48 on: March 27, 2011, 04:21:00 PM »
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little early? Kansas is only down by 8.

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Re: The Final Four - Moses or Jacob
« Reply #49 on: March 27, 2011, 04:42:32 PM »
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It's definitely over now.

 


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