Author Topic: The Elite Eight - Thaddeus or Susanna (Read 13042 times)

Bryon · « **on:** March 21, 2011, 05:50:51 PM »

Which is the better Redemption hero?

Sean · « **Reply #1 on:** March 21, 2011, 06:08:21 PM »

Wait...I'm the first person to vote for Thad and 6 people have already voted for Susanna? This is totally ridiculous. ET >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Susanna, Thad is at least >>>>> Susanna.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #2 on:** March 21, 2011, 06:18:25 PM »

Has anyone voting here played a legal deck lately?

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #3 on:** March 21, 2011, 06:29:20 PM »

In T1, Susanna>>>>>>>>>Thad. Cost me the game against Gabe at nationals. Her ability to hide or nab lost souls (namely the 2 liner), Son of God, etc, is awesome. She needs less support than Thad, and works with a better theme and brigade.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #4 on:** March 21, 2011, 06:32:03 PM »

Thad's still a monster in T1. Just not as much of one.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #5 on:** March 21, 2011, 06:39:29 PM »

Susanna hands down.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #6 on:** March 21, 2011, 06:45:28 PM »

Looks like Thaddeus might get good fighted in the irl card game kthx.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #7 on:** March 21, 2011, 06:50:44 PM »

Please. The voting's only been open for a day.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #8 on:** March 21, 2011, 06:55:15 PM »

Please. Look up the definition of might.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #9 on:** March 21, 2011, 06:55:55 PM »

Once all the people who have said Thad is a beast say that Susanna is better, Thad doesn't stand a chance. Thad's ~~going to~~ might be beaten by a girl.

The M · « **Reply #10 on:** March 21, 2011, 07:12:05 PM »

I can't decide:

Thad
Pros: If he wins we get a bunch of counters to him next set
Cons: Susanna is actually better

Susanna
Pros: Sheer Awesomeness
Cons: If she wins Thad might not get the counters we are looking for

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #11 on:** March 21, 2011, 09:23:01 PM »

Both Susanna and Thaddeus are really awesome cards that are significantly better with their support cards out. The difference I see is that Thad can actually win battles (and thus games) and is uncounterable. He's better in both T1 and T2 in my opinion and experience.

3-Liner And Bags Of Chips · « **Reply #12 on:** March 21, 2011, 10:30:54 PM »

Susana has more versatility than Big Thad does imo. And she has won me sooooo many games by hiding lost souls it's unreal. As soon as I put her down, people play cm outside of battle because I abuse her.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #13 on:** March 21, 2011, 11:34:40 PM »

People do the same to Thad (who, by the way, is incredibly valuable even if you don't have 9 disciples and Crown of Thorns). I'll bet you he's won even more games than Susanna since Disciples came out, especially in T2.

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #14 on:** March 21, 2011, 11:35:14 PM »

If Thad loses, then everyone needs to shut up about him.

=)

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #15 on:** March 21, 2011, 11:37:09 PM »

He's still WAY op in T2.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #16 on:** March 21, 2011, 11:41:37 PM »

Quote from: Chronic Apathy on March 21, 2011, 11:35:14 PM

If Thad loses, then everyone needs to shut up about him.

=)

How about everyone who didn't vote for him.

I'm gonna think he's the most OP card ever (besides NJ) even if he loses the vote.

Bryon · « **Reply #17 on:** March 22, 2011, 12:05:07 AM »

Quote from: The M on March 21, 2011, 07:12:05 PM

I can't decide:

Thad
Pros: If he wins we get a bunch of counters to him next set
Cons: Susanna is actually better

Susanna
Pros: Sheer Awesomeness
Cons: If she wins Thad might not get the counters we are looking for

As I said in the last Thad poll, counters to Thad are already on their way. Susanna is gonna stay awesome.

Thankfully, she won't get MORE awesome, since there isn't a single female N.T. hero in the whole 2011 set.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #18 on:** March 22, 2011, 12:32:37 AM »

Quote from: BubbleBoy on March 21, 2011, 11:41:37 PM

Quote from: Chronic Apathy on March 21, 2011, 11:35:14 PM
If Thad loses, then everyone needs to shut up about him.

=)
How about everyone who didn't vote for him. I'm gonna think he's the most OP card ever (besides NJ) even if he loses the vote.

"Best" is totally subjective, it doesn't mean strongest or most powerful.

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #19 on:** March 22, 2011, 07:53:20 AM »

Susanna is only going to be in a TGT deck, Thad is only going to be in a Disciples deck.
Both are strong in both T1 and T2, but Disciples are definitely stronger in T2. Point - Thad

Susanna helps your offense by getting great cards from the top of your deck, but also helps your defense by putting LSs on the bottom of your deck. Thad only helps your offense. Point - Susanna

Susanna is helpful throughout the game. Thad is close to unstoppable in the late game, but useless while waiting to get enough other disciples in play. Point - Susanna

Winner - Susanna

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #20 on:** March 22, 2011, 09:31:51 AM »

Quote from: Prof Underwood on March 22, 2011, 07:53:20 AM

Susanna is helpful throughout the game. Thad is close to unstoppable in the late game, but useless while waiting to get enough other disciples in play.

Really? Susanna needs other NT Females in order to be better, just like Thad needs other Disciples to be better. Neither of them are useless in the early game. I mean, even just being able to protect from all characters 3/3 or less can win souls, or at least cause your opponent to have to use a character that he wouldn't otherwise.

Another thing about Susanna: Everyone keeps mentioning that she is so good at placing Lost Souls beneath deck. But I've never seen that to be a real plus, unless you have an impractical number of NT females, get really lucky, and/or only have a few cards left in your deck. She is forced to put all the cards she looks at beneath deck, which means next time you use her ability, the lost souls you placed under last turn are that much closer to the top, and in the end, the ability hardly does anything to actually bury souls. She is much better used for her "search" ability IMO.

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #21 on:** March 22, 2011, 10:08:48 AM »

Quote from: BubbleBoy on March 22, 2011, 09:31:51 AM

Really? Susanna needs other NT Females in order to be better, just like Thad needs other Disciples to be better. Neither of them are useless in the early game. I mean, even just being able to protect from all characters 3/3 or less can win souls, or at least cause your opponent to have to use a character that he wouldn't otherwise.

Susanna has great numbers for initiative in the early game which is useful even if she can't search much. And you don't mind attacking with her early and risking her getting beat. No one wants to use Thad until the end of the game when he's invincible, so you just hold on to him until then to make sure that he doesn't get wasted early.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #22 on:** March 22, 2011, 10:10:23 AM »

Thad's still totally useful early-mid game, simply by virtue of being a Disciple, with access to MLaMG, Reach, etc.

Also, I don't play Disciples to strictly abuse Thad, I really enjoy their versatility, so my opinion's probably different than the majority. (surprise....)

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #23 on:** March 22, 2011, 10:17:29 AM »

Quote from: BubbleBoy on March 22, 2011, 09:31:51 AM

Quote from: Prof Underwood on March 22, 2011, 07:53:20 AM
Susanna is helpful throughout the game. Thad is close to unstoppable in the late game, but useless while waiting to get enough other disciples in play.
Really? Susanna needs other NT Females in order to be better, just like Thad needs other Disciples to be better. Neither of them are useless in the early game. I mean, even just being able to protect from all characters 3/3 or less can win souls, or at least cause your opponent to have to use a character that he wouldn't otherwise.

Another thing about Susanna: Everyone keeps mentioning that she is so good at placing Lost Souls beneath deck. But I've never seen that to be a real plus, unless you have an impractical number of NT females, get really lucky, and/or only have a few cards left in your deck. She is forced to put all the cards she looks at beneath deck, which means next time you use her ability, the lost souls you placed under last turn are that much closer to the top, and in the end, the ability hardly does anything to actually bury souls. She is much better used for her "search" ability IMO.

Are you kidding? Susanna is the best defense in my TGT deck. If I can bury a soul and get one more free turn to get a soul off you then I'm way ahead. Do it more than once and you're really looking good.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #24 on:** March 22, 2011, 11:06:04 AM »

Since it's pretty clear that Thad is going to lose, I will assure all of you Thad-fanatics that we're going to help him out in the next set. Here's one of the cards we're making this year:

Calling of the Twelve

Good Dominant

Negate Sites and Artifacts. Search your deck and discard pile for all Disciples and place them in your territory. Return all Heroes from set-aside areas to play. Discard all curses, Evil Enhancements, and N.T. Evil Fortresses in play.

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Author Topic: The Elite Eight - Thaddeus or Susanna (Read 13042 times)

Warrior_Monk

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