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Which is the better Redemption hero?

John
11 (23.9%)
Mary, Mother of James
35 (76.1%)

Total Members Voted: 39

Voting closed: March 22, 2012, 11:06:33 AM

Author Topic: The Elite Eight - John or Mary, Mother of James  (Read 5248 times)

Rawrlolsauce!

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Re: The Elite Eight - John or Mary, Mother of James
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2012, 03:01:27 PM »
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It would be unwise to play AOCP off of ET. If your opponent has an EC in hand it takes away the free soul aspect of it.

AoCp off of ET remains one of the best plays in the game, especially in T2.
You sure about this? Everyone is using protect forts and it's difficult to get by DD/CWD. Even then, 90% of people are playing with Assyrians and are smart enough to not set down a lot of characters in fear of PoJ.



It's good when it works, but so was COMBO COMBO COMBO COMBO CONGO, and that was one of the worst strategies in the game.

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Re: The Elite Eight - John or Mary, Mother of James
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2012, 06:15:34 PM »
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It would be unwise to play AOCP off of ET. If your opponent has an EC in hand it takes away the free soul aspect of it.

AoCp off of ET remains one of the best plays in the game, especially in T2.
You sure about this? Everyone is using protect forts and it's difficult to get by DD/CWD. Even then, 90% of people are playing with Assyrians and are smart enough to not set down a lot of characters in fear of PoJ.



It's good when it works, but so was COMBO COMBO COMBO COMBO CONGO, and that was one of the worst strategies in the game.

James the lesser + MLaMG + AOCP got me most of my souls at the t2 only than even more than Thaddeus surprisingly (also led to plenty of walk ins from the Garden Girls and John).  ET + AOCP was pretty decent for me.  Not as solid as James the lesser though.  But I'm a terrible player so I might be wrong.  Shutting down weapons and negating assyrians survivors was nice.  Add in crown of thorns for the survivors as well.  ET AOCP was nice to take out magicians w/ charms.  Triple Captured ark was enough for the CWD's usually.  Luckily I didn't run into any Naz.   MMOJ has got this though.
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Re: The Elite Eight - John or Mary, Mother of James
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2012, 06:22:07 PM »
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Gloria in Excelsis Deo does a tough enough job at shutting down weapons it seems like though, especially because there are two solid ways to recur it and you can have two copies now. I used KOTW in my deck to protect my dude with Charms (and it also helps vs TGT and CTB), but I'm not sure if anyone else ever does that. I don't think I saw a single copy of Captured Ark, and I only saw one copy of Naz.

Dunno. This is just from my limited experience vs ET in t2. He's only really hurt me with Reach before. CWD is pretty easy to kill with Two Bears, but that's about it. I don't know how many people were using DD. I was using it as tech vs SWJ, but I think I'll probably take it considering I only have one of each unique hero except for like Isaiah, Seraph with Live Coal, and AUTO.
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Re: The Elite Eight - John or Mary, Mother of James
« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2012, 07:28:56 PM »
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Gloria in Excelsis Deo does a tough enough job at shutting down weapons it seems like though, especially because there are two solid ways to recur it and you can have two copies now. I used KOTW in my deck to protect my dude with Charms (and it also helps vs TGT and CTB), but I'm not sure if anyone else ever does that. I don't think I saw a single copy of Captured Ark, and I only saw one copy of Naz.

Dunno. This is just from my limited experience vs ET in t2. He's only really hurt me with Reach before. CWD is pretty easy to kill with Two Bears, but that's about it. I don't know how many people were using DD. I was using it as tech vs SWJ, but I think I'll probably take it considering I only have one of each unique hero except for like Isaiah, Seraph with Live Coal, and AUTO.

I love Gloria in Excelsis Deo especially with Gabriel.  Only problem with it compared to Passover Hymn is with Gloria you must discard x which includes your own weapons if it come to that since it doesn't say up too x. But I really never use assyrians w/ TGT.  The added negation of human evil character is amazing though.  Lifting the curse is great for CWD as well.  And it is usually easy to get out before CWD (with Lilies to pull it).  First turn CWD's  can be annoying though.  Especially with an early Nazareth.   

Gloria in Excelsis Deo (Di)
Type: Hero Enh. • Brigade: Silver/White • Ability: 3 / 4 • Class: Territory • Special Ability: Negate and discard X Curses or weapons in play. Negate special abilities on human Evil Characters this turn. • Identifiers: NT, Involves Music • Verse: Luke 2:14 • Availability: Disciples booster packs ()

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Type: Hero Enh. • Brigade: Purple/White • Ability: X / 4 • Class: Territory • Special Ability: Negate and discard up to X Curses or evil Enhancements in play. Negate immune abilities on evil cards this turn. • Identifiers: NT, Involves Music • Verse: Matthew 26:30 • Availability: Disciples booster packs ()


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Re: The Elite Eight - John or Mary, Mother of James
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2012, 07:33:17 PM »
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I love Gloria in Excelsis Deo especially with Gabriel.  Only problem with it compared to Passover Hymn is with Gloria you must discard x which includes your own weapons if it come to that since it doesn't say up too x. But I really never use assyrians w/ TGT.  The added negation of human evil character is amazing though.  Lifting the curse is great for CWD as well.  And it is usually easy to get out before CWD (with Lilies to pull it).  First turn CWD's  can be annoying though.  Especially with an early Nazareth.   
How many N.T. angels do you plan on having in play? Usually it's only Gabriel.

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Re: The Elite Eight - John or Mary, Mother of James
« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2012, 07:34:54 PM »
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Re: The Elite Eight - John or Mary, Mother of James
« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2012, 09:12:55 PM »
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I love Gloria in Excelsis Deo especially with Gabriel.  Only problem with it compared to Passover Hymn is with Gloria you must discard x which includes your own weapons if it come to that since it doesn't say up too x. But I really never use assyrians w/ TGT.  The added negation of human evil character is amazing though.  Lifting the curse is great for CWD as well.  And it is usually easy to get out before CWD (with Lilies to pull it).  First turn CWD's  can be annoying though.  Especially with an early Nazareth.   
How many N.T. angels do you plan on having in play? Usually it's only Gabriel.
Naw Attending angel, Gabriel, TSA.  Attending Angel is so nice.  I have no idea why I didn't use it last year.  Angel of Warning was also one I used a bit last year.  Though generally I go Gabriel, TSA, Attending Angel x 2.  Searching with Attending Angel for another HIR, recurring Lilies/Gloria with Gabe, or negating with TSA.  Angel of Warning was nice for pulling Herod's Temple/TGT.  Mid-late game I generally have 2-3 in play. 

 


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