Author Topic: The Elite Eight - John or Mary, Mother of James (Read 5289 times)

Bryon · « **on:** March 19, 2012, 11:06:34 AM »

Which is the better Redemption hero?

lp670sv · « **Reply #1 on:** March 19, 2012, 11:07:18 AM »

MMoJ is so pro

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #2 on:** March 19, 2012, 11:10:41 AM »

Both use TGT. MMoJ bands. Hullo winner.

Red Wing · « **Reply #3 on:** March 19, 2012, 11:10:47 AM »

King Amazing should've beaten John, so definitely MMoJ.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #4 on:** March 19, 2012, 11:11:17 AM »

I'll be that guy.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #5 on:** March 19, 2012, 11:17:23 AM »

If MMoJ can beat Daniel, she is clearly better than John, whose ability is a weaker form of Daniel's, and John's only advantage over Daniel is shared by MMoJ.

As much as I dislike her, MMoJ should win this.

Master KChief · « **Reply #6 on:** March 19, 2012, 11:57:35 AM »

Quote from: lp670sv on March 19, 2012, 11:07:18 AM

MMoJ is so ~~pro~~ sacky

FTFY

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #7 on:** March 19, 2012, 01:21:49 PM »

If I had a dime for every time you said that word in the past couple of weeks, I'd have about tree fiddy.

I would have voted Amaziah over MMoJ, but since the best Purple Hero didn't get out of his brigade it's no contest.

Wings of Music · « **Reply #8 on:** March 19, 2012, 01:24:14 PM »

This is no contest, Amazing was better than John, and Daniel (who MMoJ beat) does what John does better.

The only advantage that John has over MMoJ is that he has AoCp access, but honestly who actually plays AoCp on John?

lp670sv · « **Reply #9 on:** March 19, 2012, 01:25:36 PM »

Wings of Music · « **Reply #10 on:** March 19, 2012, 01:29:21 PM »

When? There are a ton of other character who can play AoCp more efficiently than John.

Master KChief · « **Reply #11 on:** March 19, 2012, 01:34:08 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on March 19, 2012, 01:21:49 PM

If I had a dime for every time you said that word in the past couple of weeks, I'd have about tree fiddy.

Because sacky hero is sacky. There, you're 2 dimes richer.

Master KChief · « **Reply #12 on:** March 19, 2012, 01:38:12 PM »

Quote from: Wings of Music on March 19, 2012, 01:29:21 PM

When? There are a ton of other character who can play AoCp more efficiently than John.

The efficiency and consistency comes from AoCP itself, not so much the character using it.

lp670sv · « **Reply #13 on:** March 19, 2012, 01:39:13 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on March 19, 2012, 01:38:12 PM

The efficiency and consistency comes from AoCP itself, not so much the character using it.

This. AOCP is AOCP. If I have John to make a rescue with and AOCP in hand, guess what i'm going to do.

Master KChief · « **Reply #14 on:** March 19, 2012, 01:42:27 PM »

Thats why John is so good against the meta defense, he completely destroys it. KoT is the only thing that has a chance to stand up to him, and even then he's just going to have AoCP/MLaMG/Passover Hymn dropped on him.

Wings of Music · « **Reply #15 on:** March 19, 2012, 02:08:55 PM »

Look if I have AoCp in hand I'm more likely to go in with ET, Matthew, or Lydia than John. The only exception would be if KoT is out, so that I can still play reach beforehand without it being negated.

Master KChief · « **Reply #16 on:** March 19, 2012, 02:29:19 PM »

So you're basing your argument on whether you can interrupt/d3 before the AoCP? Thats more of a personal preference than anything and takes away no value from AoCP. Lydia also can't play AoCP off an interrupt.

Wings of Music · « **Reply #17 on:** March 19, 2012, 02:39:03 PM »

I'm not demoting the value of AoCp but for me I usually play it on different characters. If you all play AoCp on John frequently I guess I'm wrong.

lp670sv · « **Reply #18 on:** March 19, 2012, 02:44:00 PM »

It would be unwise to play AOCP off of ET. If your opponent has an EC in hand it takes away the free soul aspect of it.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #19 on:** March 19, 2012, 02:44:25 PM »

MMoJ is without a doubt the strongest part of a TGT offense in T2. Her CBN band won me souls more often than He is Risen (the best enhancement in the game) when I used Silver-TGT exclusively last year. I'm not sure how much has changed this year, but considering Disciples are a lot weaker, MMoJ wins it for me.

Master KChief · « **Reply #20 on:** March 19, 2012, 02:46:12 PM »

Quote from: lp670sv on March 19, 2012, 02:44:00 PM

It would be unwise to play AOCP off of ET. If your opponent has an EC in hand it takes away the free soul aspect of it.

And no one plays ET anymore because no one plays down EC's anymore either.

stefferweffer · « **Reply #21 on:** March 19, 2012, 02:48:41 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on March 19, 2012, 02:46:12 PM

Quote from: lp670sv on March 19, 2012, 02:44:00 PM
It would be unwise to play AOCP off of ET. If your opponent has an EC in hand it takes away the free soul aspect of it.

And no one plays ET anymore because no one plays down EC's anymore either.

Against TGT they do, unless they plan on IOJ or DS to stop it.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #22 on:** March 19, 2012, 02:49:43 PM »

ET is still used for Great Faith + Reach.

At least in T2

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #23 on:** March 19, 2012, 02:52:09 PM »

Quote from: lp670sv on March 19, 2012, 02:44:00 PM

It would be unwise to play AOCP off of ET. If your opponent has an EC in hand it takes away the free soul aspect of it.

AoCp off of ET remains one of the best plays in the game, especially in T2.

lp670sv · « **Reply #24 on:** March 19, 2012, 02:54:10 PM »

yeah or I could go in with James the less, wait until you block, and destroy your defense while also getting a guaranteed soul instead of just killing the defense you have out and not getting the auto win.

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Author Topic: The Elite Eight - John or Mary, Mother of James (Read 5289 times)

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