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WHAT? How can you vote for Daniel?! A CBN four person band that stops Sabbath Breaker, Uzzah, and KoT? Not to mention the power of grabbing TGT, as well as having Herod's Temple protection. All you need is to flip up a Blue Tassels and you've stopped every single block in a T1 game.

I'm trying not to vote based on deck, but MMOJ is so much better if used to her full potential.

Notice it doesn't say which is the better white hero. Daniel is the better Redemption hero because he doesn't rely on having  2-4 extra cards to be effective, not to mention the ability to negate ECs CBN is huge.

Quote from: Master Q on March 15, 2012, 01:25:10 PM

Notice it doesn't say which is the better white hero. Daniel is the better Redemption hero because he doesn't rely on having  2-4 extra cards to be effective, not to mention the ability to negate ECs CBN is huge.

The point of Redemption March Madness is to find who people think the best hero is, first the goal is to find the best in each respective brigade. Daniel should have been in green, since he's better as a green hero.

Sorry, but this seems inconsistent.  You bash MMOJ because she's most effective with 2-4 other cards, and then say that Daniel doesn't need extra cards to be effective.  Then everything you mention about Daniel is what he can accomplish when he bands to other characters.  The fact of the matter is that MMOJ can be unblockable with just ONE card on the table (TGT) under the right circumstances.  Do you anticipate Daniel winning many rescue attempts without banding to someone and/or using enhancements?

Quote from: Professoralstad on March 15, 2012, 09:09:40 AM

Quote from: Ring Wraith on March 15, 2012, 08:29:08 AM

WHAT? How can you vote for Daniel?! A CBN four person band that stops Sabbath Breaker, Uzzah, and KoT? Not to mention the power of grabbing TGT, as well as having Herod's Temple protection. All you need is to flip up a Blue Tassels and you've stopped every single block in a T1 game.
I'm trying not to vote based on deck, but MMOJ is so much better if used to her full potential.

Much the same could be said about Danny+Mike. If you're going by Hero vs. Hero, Danny does what the four garden girls do all by himself, except tutoring TGT, which is unnecessary for him.

Except Daniel is not of pure blood.  He has green in him.  A green character should not win the white category.  Yes, I voted again out of spite (my only votes this tournament aside from one curiosity vote). 

I will continue to be bitter that a multi-colored hero is stealing White's spot in the finals/semifinals/quarterfinals/whatever-it-is-called-when-there-is-only-one-hero-from-each-brigade.  It is not right and should have been stopped long ago.  I'm not even sure why multi-colored heroes were mixed with the pure colors. 

Daniel may win it all, but I will continue to vote so that I can continue to complain about the travesty that has happened to white.   

Quote from: Master Q on March 15, 2012, 01:25:10 PM

I will continue to vote for Daniel out of spite, because he wasn't put in Green. Also, if I may direct your attention to the first post, first line:

Quote from: Bryon on March 15, 2012, 01:30:04 AM

Which is the better Redemption hero?

Notice it doesn't say which is the better white hero. Daniel is the better Redemption hero because he doesn't rely on having  2-4 extra cards to be effective, not to mention the ability to negate ECs CBN is huge. His band gets around Balaam's Disobedience with Cheribum, Mike, or Gab, and can get around Grapes with a Wheel'd Angel. Hey, you can get around CM if you band to Daniel with Cheribum 1st. TGT may have Herod's Temple, but the Daniel band can stop a whole lot more, can get around the hardest card to avoid (Grapes), and he is one of the most versatile heroes, which is what I vote on.

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Do you anticipate Daniel winning many rescue attempts without banding to someone and/or using enhancements?

In T1? Absolutely. But it's not even a fair comparison to not give Daniel any support, but give MMoJ TGT. If you were to give Daniel the best support card for Prophets, you can search through their deck and get rid of (in T1) their 1 EE (Plot) which will give you at least as many rescues as TGT will in a typical T1 game.

I also think people underestimate Daniel's ability to look at an opponent's hand. It is one of the most strategically beneficial abilities in the game. I know exactly what my opponent can (or can't do) and can respond to it in whichever way I see fit.

Let's not forget that in Real Redemption (T2), TGT is usually only good to make the 28/24 band CBN. Seraph, Daniel, Abednego, and Michael is a 28/27 CBN band with access to way more interrupts, and is easier to setup with Wheel.

I'll be sad to see Daniel go this round (unless he picks up some serious votes). I vow to forever have an active deck (i.e. one that I update with each new set and play with occasionally) built with him in it for the rest of my Redemption career, because of everything he's done for me and to commemorate his historic run through three of the vile TGT chicks, ultimately being defeated by their heartless mastermind.

I can't believe Daniel is going to lose here. We're looking at a conditional CBN band and ignore (that's not on the character) V.S. a multi brigade hero that can only be targeted by OT enhancements and a banding/look at hand ability that is ALL CBN!!!

This is bugging me that he lost more than some of the other matchups.