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Which is the better EC?

Judas Iscariot
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Nebuchadnezzar
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Voting closed: April 20, 2011, 11:32:40 AM

Author Topic: Round 3: Crimson Championship-4. Judas Iscariot vs. 2. Nebuchadnezzar  (Read 4131 times)

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Re: Round 3: Crimson Championship-4. Judas Iscariot vs. 2. Nebuchadnezzar
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2011, 08:07:48 PM »
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Judas is doing pretty good for a 4th seed.
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Re: Round 3: Crimson Championship-4. Judas Iscariot vs. 2. Nebuchadnezzar
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2011, 11:06:13 AM »
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Judas is doing pretty good for Judas. I thought it was just match ups, but he should be getting destroyed by Nebby (largely because Judas doesn't have a theme...)

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Re: Round 3: Crimson Championship-4. Judas Iscariot vs. 2. Nebuchadnezzar
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2011, 11:26:24 AM »
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Judas has a theme, he's just on the wrong side.
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Re: Round 3: Crimson Championship-4. Judas Iscariot vs. 2. Nebuchadnezzar
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2011, 01:08:59 PM »
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Judas has a theme, he's just on the wrong side.
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Re: Round 3: Crimson Championship-4. Judas Iscariot vs. 2. Nebuchadnezzar
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2011, 03:59:48 PM »
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I think the reason that it is close is that Nebby is going to be totally shut down at Nats by everyone playing with the Daniel.
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Re: Round 3: Crimson Championship-4. Judas Iscariot vs. 2. Nebuchadnezzar
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2011, 04:01:52 PM »
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Daniel isn't even legal til next year.

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Re: Round 3: Crimson Championship-4. Judas Iscariot vs. 2. Nebuchadnezzar
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2011, 04:08:43 PM »
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Daniel isn't even legal til next year.
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Re: Round 3: Crimson Championship-4. Judas Iscariot vs. 2. Nebuchadnezzar
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2011, 06:35:47 PM »
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I voted Judas. While neither of them are super-fantastic, at least Judas' SA still works even with the most common Site in play (other than maybe GOGO).
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!

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Re: Round 3: Crimson Championship-4. Judas Iscariot vs. 2. Nebuchadnezzar
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2011, 06:49:13 PM »
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I honestly don't see why you think Nazareth is so prevalent. Maybe it's just my playgroup, but between the current top offense (disciples) not using searches, and the fact that Naz stops your own searching, nobody I know in person even runs Naz in their deck (that I know of).

Hence, I voted for Nebby.

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Re: Round 3: Crimson Championship-4. Judas Iscariot vs. 2. Nebuchadnezzar
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2011, 06:57:54 PM »
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Nazareth is everywhere online. I run it in every single one of my decks, even ones that have searching.
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Re: Round 3: Crimson Championship-4. Judas Iscariot vs. 2. Nebuchadnezzar
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2011, 07:05:51 PM »
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It really isn't everywhere online. I have only played like 3 decks out of I don't know 12? that have used nazereth. It really isn't a common splash card in every deck, only those that play NT and few like you who put it in regularly. I am not questioning your judgement I just disagree that it is everywhere, and therefore is not a fair estiment of an ec's value.


On the other hand it is and should almost be everywhere in type 2.

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Re: Round 3: Crimson Championship-4. Judas Iscariot vs. 2. Nebuchadnezzar
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2011, 07:35:51 PM »
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And t2 is far more important than t1.

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Re: Round 3: Crimson Championship-4. Judas Iscariot vs. 2. Nebuchadnezzar
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2011, 10:55:07 PM »
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And t2 is far more important than t1.
That depends.  Aren't the vast majority of players T1?
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Re: Round 3: Crimson Championship-4. Judas Iscariot vs. 2. Nebuchadnezzar
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2011, 12:25:29 PM »
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I vote Judas.
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Re: Round 3: Crimson Championship-4. Judas Iscariot vs. 2. Nebuchadnezzar
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2011, 12:40:16 PM »
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I did to. Judas is a great stand alone character and can be splashed into many decks but he also plays a prominent role as s support for the heretics defense.  He can also support a demon defense and he can even help draw with Disciples and the boat.

Nebbys is good but this shouldn't even be a contest for Judas
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Re: Round 3: Crimson Championship-4. Judas Iscariot vs. 2. Nebuchadnezzar
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2011, 01:03:24 PM »
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I did to. Judas is a great stand alone character and can be splashed into many decks but he also plays a prominent role as s support for the heretics defense.  He can also support a demon defense and he can even help draw with Disciples and the boat.

Nebbys is good but this shouldn't even be a contest for Judas
Judas can't help draw unless he's converted.  "X=Number of heroes here."
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Re: Round 3: Crimson Championship-4. Judas Iscariot vs. 2. Nebuchadnezzar
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2011, 02:20:33 PM »
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still he has that option.

Plus Judas Curse on Judas is just fabulous...
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Re: Round 3: Crimson Championship-4. Judas Iscariot vs. 2. Nebuchadnezzar
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2011, 07:19:52 PM »
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both are incredible ec's, but my vote goes to nebby for being far more of a toolbox ec. he can search and instantly play battle winners or go for big numbers if running up against fbtn/b (leviathan). one of his namesake enhancements (nebby's pride) even caters to both by being an insanely powerful battle winner (interrupt + win at that!) and having huge numbers with name on name! and dont even let me mention putting a horses on him...play 2 enhancements instantly when hitting battle? or search for nergal and play a battle winner off the horses? yes, sign me up anyday.
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Re: Round 3: Crimson Championship-4. Judas Iscariot vs. 2. Nebuchadnezzar
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2011, 10:28:32 PM »
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both are incredible ec's, but my vote goes to nebby for being far more of a toolbox ec. he can search and instantly play battle winners or go for big numbers if running up against fbtn/b (leviathan). one of his namesake enhancements (nebby's pride) even caters to both by being an insanely powerful battle winner (interrupt + win at that!) and having huge numbers with name on name! and dont even let me mention putting a horses on him...play 2 enhancements instantly when hitting battle? or search for nergal and play a battle winner off the horses? yes, sign me up anyday.

QFT. This is exactly why Nebby is awesome.

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Re: Round 3: Crimson Championship-4. Judas Iscariot vs. 2. Nebuchadnezzar
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2011, 10:30:11 PM »
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Nebby + Belshazzar's Banquet was better then Uzzah before Disciples.

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Re: Round 3: Crimson Championship-4. Judas Iscariot vs. 2. Nebuchadnezzar
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2011, 11:13:25 PM »
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Deciet of Saphira on Judas is even awesomer... (after you have chosen him as a blocker for your opponent to use against you...)
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Re: Round 3: Crimson Championship-4. Judas Iscariot vs. 2. Nebuchadnezzar
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2011, 08:07:44 PM »
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Why is this awsome? How is judas not discarded? EDIT I see now.

I agree it is more awesome but less practicle.
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Re: Round 3: Crimson Championship-4. Judas Iscariot vs. 2. Nebuchadnezzar
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2011, 10:30:47 PM »
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It takes a bit of setting up but in type II if you do it you can keep recycling deceit of Sapphira and do it indefinitely with Golgotha.
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Re: Round 3: Crimson Championship-4. Judas Iscariot vs. 2. Nebuchadnezzar
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2011, 02:17:57 AM »
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It takes a bit of setting up but in type II if you do it you can keep recycling deceit of Sapphira and do it indefinitely with Golgotha.

Or you just use Household Idols and Coliseum Lions for the same basic effect.  :P
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