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Which is the better Redemption hero?

Phinehas son of Eleazar
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Priests of Christ
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Voting closed: March 18, 2011, 03:33:28 AM

Author Topic: Round 2 - Teal - Phinehas son of Eleazar or Priests of Christ  (Read 6676 times)

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Which is the better Redemption hero?

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Re: Round 2 - Teal - Phinehas son of Eleazar or Priests of Christ
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2011, 10:25:11 AM »
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This is a close one. I put both in every teal deck I make, so that makes it a little tougher to tell which is actually better...
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Re: Round 2 - Teal - Phinehas son of Eleazar or Priests of Christ
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2011, 06:48:02 PM »
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PoC is over rated
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Re: Round 2 - Teal - Phinehas son of Eleazar or Priests of Christ
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2011, 07:35:25 PM »
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PoC had won me so many games after i do ANB... I always get him in my opening hand and he beasts.
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Re: Round 2 - Teal - Phinehas son of Eleazar or Priests of Christ
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2011, 12:54:18 AM »
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Both of these are pretty critical in an all teal offense.  However, Phineas + Zeal is way better to splash into just about any other kind of deck.

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Re: Round 2 - Teal - Phinehas son of Eleazar or Priests of Christ
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2011, 01:15:12 AM »
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PoC is WAY overrated. I cannot believe this is happening. Phineas can play an interrupt + discard CBN, and can't be captured by Writ or Charms. On top of that, if they try nuking your territory, your heroes are safe.

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Re: Round 2 - Teal - Phinehas son of Eleazar or Priests of Christ
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2011, 02:28:17 AM »
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For real this has to be a joke...Nazareth makes PoC nearly useless. Phinehas wins LS sometimes just for the fact that he can create a mutual destruction with King of Tyrus without any enhancements on either side.
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Re: Round 2 - Teal - Phinehas son of Eleazar or Priests of Christ
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2011, 02:48:10 AM »
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UPSET ALERT!

PoC is pretty much only good in one situation: if you draw him on your first turn/before your opponent has had a chance to put an EC down. Otherwise he's pretty much out of sync with everything else that makes Teal good. Phinehas should be winning this hands down...
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Re: Round 2 - Teal - Phinehas son of Eleazar or Priests of Christ
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2011, 06:43:00 AM »
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poc is severely overrated, especially now with naz shutting him down. phin wins on almost all facets by a mile.
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Re: Round 2 - Teal - Phinehas son of Eleazar or Priests of Christ
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2011, 11:13:20 AM »
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I like how all of the PoC fans refuse to post. Or rather, I dislike.

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Re: Round 2 - Teal - Phinehas son of Eleazar or Priests of Christ
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2011, 11:16:42 AM »
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I like how all of the PoC fans refuse to post. Or rather, I dislike.

as I was about to post...

PoC+Passover is good and he gets even better in type 2 with 5 of him being NT and generic. My type 2 teal looks sic tricked out with PoC x5
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Re: Round 2 - Teal - Phinehas son of Eleazar or Priests of Christ
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2011, 11:21:26 AM »
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Priest of Christ has plenty of uses. His search can be very useful in either a judges or A-bomb deck if used right. If you get him off the draw he is practically a free lost soul, whether they block or not.
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Re: Round 2 - Teal - Phinehas son of Eleazar or Priests of Christ
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2011, 11:22:12 AM »
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Priest of Christ has plenty of uses. His search can be very useful in either a judges or A-bomb deck if used right. If you get him off the draw he is practically a free lost soul, whether they block or not.
If they block, you're getting a free soul that you would already get anyway. He just does it a bit quicker.

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Re: Round 2 - Teal - Phinehas son of Eleazar or Priests of Christ
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2011, 11:25:54 AM »
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Priest of Christ has plenty of uses. His search can be very useful in either a judges or A-bomb deck if used right. If you get him off the draw he is practically a free lost soul, whether they block or not.

I bet that 7/10 times you draw Phinehas first turn when you're opponent draws a soul, you'll get a free soul from him as well. And that's without using a dominant.
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Re: Round 2 - Teal - Phinehas son of Eleazar or Priests of Christ
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2011, 11:26:03 AM »
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This voting process is just proving to me Speed is still the most heavily used archetype.

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Re: Round 2 - Teal - Phinehas son of Eleazar or Priests of Christ
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2011, 01:05:26 PM »
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This voting process is just proving to me Speed is still the most heavily used archetype.
It's proving to me that the FBN heroes from The Warriors expansion are still too powerful.  The Strong Angel, Moses, Captain, and Benaiah all made it to the top 4 of their brigades.  Only Ira was left out, and that is mainly due to the huge Genesis flood of heroes, and the recent Job uptick.

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Re: Round 2 - Teal - Phinehas son of Eleazar or Priests of Christ
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2011, 01:13:11 PM »
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This voting process is just proving to me Speed is still the most heavily used archetype.
You needed a whole March Madness to tell you that?

I voted PoC.  NT teal is more important than you think.  Sure, Naz hurts them, and I've seen mention of most sites all over these threads.  But how often do you see Naz in T1?  (I'll get into T2 eventually, I promise.)  With territory clearing in teal, like Holy Unto the Lord, it's still fairly easy to force your opponent to block from hand.  After all the initiative love, I'm surprised that Phineas is doing that well.

As to their ability outside of Teal, I've never been in favor of splashing one hero for one enhancement.  I've always preferred to have a fully-loaded theme.
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Re: Round 2 - Teal - Phinehas son of Eleazar or Priests of Christ
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2011, 05:48:15 PM »
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But how often do you see Naz in T1?

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Re: Round 2 - Teal - Phinehas son of Eleazar or Priests of Christ
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2011, 05:49:15 PM »
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This voting process is just proving to me Speed is still the most heavily used archetype.
It's proving to me that the FBN heroes from The Warriors expansion are still too powerful.  The Strong Angel, Moses, Captain, and Benaiah all made it to the top 4 of their brigades.  Only Ira was left out, and that is mainly due to the huge Genesis flood of heroes, and the recent Job uptick.

And all of those cards are most commonly played in a faster, spead style offense because they require little additional support.

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Re: Round 2 - Teal - Phinehas son of Eleazar or Priests of Christ
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2011, 06:20:23 PM »
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just because people vote for it doesnt mean its powerful...this thread being a prime example.
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Re: Round 2 - Teal - Phinehas son of Eleazar or Priests of Christ
« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2011, 06:24:21 PM »
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just because people vote for it doesnt mean its powerful...this thread being a prime example.
Exactly.  Not who's more powerful, but who the general populace thinks is better.  Which made making brackets really interesting.  Who did I think everyone else thought was the best?
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Re: Round 2 - Teal - Phinehas son of Eleazar or Priests of Christ
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2011, 06:45:31 PM »
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Yeah. If we were actually voting on who was best, Watchful Servant would be makign a strong run at the Title.

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Re: Round 2 - Teal - Phinehas son of Eleazar or Priests of Christ
« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2011, 07:08:23 PM »
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Except, by the time your opponents deck is low enough for him to become effective, they probably have ways to counter him.

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Re: Round 2 - Teal - Phinehas son of Eleazar or Priests of Christ
« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2011, 07:12:35 PM »
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im assuming that was sarcasm...
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Re: Round 2 - Teal - Phinehas son of Eleazar or Priests of Christ
« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2011, 07:24:58 PM »
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Guys, seriously, everyone has a different idea about what the "best hero" is, which is why these polls are even working at all. Different playgroups have different metas (no meta is more important than any other, except maybe the meta at Nationals) which leads to different heroes getting the spotlight from different people. One person may think Watchful Servant is the best, another might go with Thad, a third might think something completely random. That doesn't inherently make any of them wrong (or right).

 


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