Author Topic: Round 2 - Green - Micah or Hur (Read 6633 times)

Bryon · « **on:** March 11, 2012, 12:18:47 AM »

Which is the better Redemption hero?

Micah
Hur

Wings of Music · « **Reply #1 on:** March 11, 2012, 01:34:00 AM »

This one is a really close call, Hur is a CBN disrupt + d7 with gifts up, but Micah can recur, hmmm... I think I'll hold off on voting for this one.

CJSports · « **Reply #2 on:** March 11, 2012, 10:21:30 AM »

Micah: Great for Recursion of two bears. H.T. ability. Good initiative. Protection from Caves.

Hur: Screws with opponents hands. Draws a lot with Gifts up.

Micah

Red Wing · « **Reply #3 on:** March 11, 2012, 01:05:30 PM »

Micah has HT, Caves, Two Bears, and can recur a lot of great enhancements. Hur has Gifts.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #4 on:** March 11, 2012, 03:55:17 PM »

I can't believe Micah is winning this. Hur is the best soulgenning Hero in the game, and has potential for HUGE draws (not just with Gifts, either).

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #5 on:** March 11, 2012, 04:12:56 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on March 11, 2012, 03:55:17 PM

I can't believe Micah is winning this. Hur is the best soulgenning Hero in the game, and has potential for HUGE draws (not just with Gifts, either).

King Amaziah is technically a soulgenning hero, and much, much better, IMO.

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #6 on:** March 11, 2012, 04:16:40 PM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on March 11, 2012, 04:12:56 PM

Quote from: Minister Polarius on March 11, 2012, 03:55:17 PM
I can't believe Micah is winning this. Hur is the best soulgenning Hero in the game, and has potential for HUGE draws (not just with Gifts, either).
King Amaziah is technically a soulgenning hero, and much, much better, IMO.

Amaziah isn't better specifically at soulgenning though. In fact, The Woman at the Well is the best soulgenning hero, with Hur being a close second in my opinion.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #7 on:** March 11, 2012, 04:17:06 PM »

Hur: Useless in T2
Micah: Somewhat useful in T2

Micah wins by a landslide.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #8 on:** March 11, 2012, 04:28:46 PM »

Micah is just another Prophet, and a very ho-hum one in a field of great Heroes. Yes, he can recur Enhancements, but all Green enhancements are rubbish. The only reason I say Hur is an even better soulgenner than WatW is because Hur can bring out multiple LS's so that Burial, or in some cases SoG won't deprive you of the generated soul.

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #9 on:** March 11, 2012, 04:32:30 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on March 11, 2012, 04:28:46 PM

Micah is just another Prophet, and a very ho-hum one in a field of great Heroes. Yes, he can recur Enhancements, but all Green enhancements are rubbish. The only reason I say Hur is an even better soulgenner than WatW is because Hur can bring out multiple LS's so that Burial, or in some cases SoG won't deprive you of the generated soul.

On the other hand, Hur doesn't guarantee that any soul will be drawn. I think that that comes down entirely to what style you want, but for all intents and purposes, I'd take The Woman at the Well over Hur any day strictly for generating souls.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #10 on:** March 11, 2012, 04:36:35 PM »

Maybe so, but Hur definitely has the edge on drawing.

Wings of Music · « **Reply #11 on:** March 11, 2012, 07:43:29 PM »

Hmm as I said this was hard for me, but what it came down to was this,

Which heroes would I miss more in my green decks? I concluded that I would miss Hur a lot more than I would miss Micah. Hur makes for the main engine in my decks, and while yes I would miss recurring two bears, losing the main force I have for drawing would be a significantly harder to bear.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #12 on:** March 12, 2012, 12:12:50 PM »

I initially voted for Micah because I've always thought of Hur as being a bit overrated with the little support he usually has, and the fact that DoN can often thwart his main usefulness. But then I realized what Pol was talking about with the huge draws even with no Gifts AND even with an opponent's RBD up, and I realized my mistake. Hur should win.

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #13 on:** March 12, 2012, 12:26:13 PM »

Quote from: Professoralstad on March 12, 2012, 12:12:50 PM

I realized what Pol was talking about with the huge draws even with no Gifts AND even with an opponent's RBD up

OK, so now I'm really curious...

Professoralstad · « **Reply #14 on:** March 12, 2012, 12:30:37 PM »

Quote from: Prof Underwood on March 12, 2012, 12:26:13 PM

Quote from: Professoralstad on March 12, 2012, 12:12:50 PM
I realized what Pol was talking about with the huge draws even with no Gifts AND even with an opponent's RBD up
OK, so now I'm really curious...

I've played Pol enough to know one of his favorite evil characters. He is one of three cards including Hur needed for the combo I (and I assume Pol) is thinking of. He can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm not. Needless to say, it's brilliant.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #15 on:** March 12, 2012, 08:43:40 PM »

We're on the same page. It's pretty easy to figure out once you know it involves a EC and some other cards, but it's more fun to no just give it away

lp670sv · « **Reply #16 on:** March 12, 2012, 08:54:03 PM »

and now i want to know that combo..

Master KChief · « **Reply #17 on:** March 12, 2012, 08:55:12 PM »

Isn't the combo over a year old? :\

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #18 on:** March 12, 2012, 09:17:38 PM »

How long a combo has been possible has no bearing on its level of general knowledge.

Master KChief · « **Reply #19 on:** March 12, 2012, 09:40:13 PM »

Uh yes...yes, it generally does.

LordZardeck · « **Reply #20 on:** March 12, 2012, 09:43:31 PM »

Quote from: lp670sv on March 12, 2012, 08:54:03 PM

and now i want to know that combo..

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #21 on:** March 12, 2012, 09:44:52 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on March 12, 2012, 09:40:13 PM

Uh yes...yes, it generally does.

In theory yes, in practice not necessarily. Obviously. I mean, look at this thread. There are at least two people that apparently don't know the combo, one of whom is one of the most successful online players.

Master KChief · « **Reply #22 on:** March 12, 2012, 09:48:26 PM »

2 people out of the whole community. You've convinced me.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #23 on:** March 12, 2012, 10:12:34 PM »

Even one player who hangs out at the top table of ROOT consistently is plenty of proof that it's not common knowledge regardless of how old it is.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #24 on:** March 12, 2012, 10:13:37 PM »

If I'm thinking of the right combo, you could have done it at least 6 years ago...

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Author Topic: Round 2 - Green - Micah or Hur (Read 6633 times)

Warrior_Monk

Chronic Apathy

Rawrlolsauce!

Chronic Apathy

Warrior_Monk