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Because side battles are so common, eh...

Pot of Manna. Rhymes with Susanna. BAM. Susie wins.

Quote from: Master KChief on March 07, 2012, 08:17:59 PM

Pot of Manna. Rhymes with Susanna. BAM. Susie wins.

Because Pot of Manna is so common, eh... 

I add a copy of Pot of Manna to every deck. That way I always have a coaster available to place my soda can on.

Don't be hatin' on Pot of Manna.

Also, Daniel wins in a side battle vs Susanna...  he negates every one of her enhancements. Therefore, he is the better hero.

Susanna  (TP) cannot be negated.

I think people are getting off track here. I think the way to judge which hero is better is not by comparing how each handles specific situations (or comparing what each rhymes with, although that is a bit more accurate), but rather how useful they are, because there is no such thing as a one-card offense. IMO, the power level of a card is defined by how well the card supports a winning deck, and that ability is reflected in popularity. You might say "Daniel is so powerful! He negates your whole defense and looks at your hand CBNOMGOSH!!1!!11!" or "Susanna is so OP! She puts all my souls at the bottom so you can't make a rescuePWNAGE!1!!!1" but which of these do you actually use more? If it's Susanna, vote for her; if it's Daniel, vote for him.

I personally thought Susanna would be the quick and obvious choice, because I've never even seen Daniel in a deck, whereas she is in pretty much any deck with NT women. But I haven't actually played in quite a while, so maybe Daniel's out there kicking butt and I've just never heard about it.

Plus, Daniel decks, while not top tier, are certainly viable, and I had the pleasure of having my butt handed to me by someone playing a Daniel deck twice today.

I would like to know more about this...were you using Crimson by any chance?

To be fair, it was a Daniel and Isaiah deck, but it does include all 6 Daniel Heroes in the game (Rack, Shack, Benny, Danny, Mike and Gabe). But in the second game, Daniel did get 4/5 rescues.

No high-tier decks are going to be using A Child is Born, and Transfiguration is also not used that much (though it's more viable). 'He is Risen', No Need for Spices, Passover Hymn (in Gardensciples), Magnificat, and others I'm sure I'm forgetting are all negated by Daniel. Words of Encouragement is fine, but it's also not a battle winner. I've never seen anyone who wasn't a new player or otherwise a new member use "enhancement" to refer to a hero's special ability.

Rack, Shack, Benny

Kudos for Veggie Tales reference.   

On another note.

Dan is green which means he can haz ANB! 

Seriously though I think that we should consider Daniel's greeness and the awesomeness he has because of that.  It allows him to drop things like Two Bears, Search, ANB, and Spiritual warfare preblock with HT.  I think that when considering the best 'hero' I think that we have to consider the greenness of Dan because green adds a new (and far more potent) dynamic to him.   

BubbleBoy, most of the time I do agree with you that it should be based on the deck (and usefulness to the deck) rather than the hero, but Daniel is, frankly, quite splashable, and has enough very solid abilities to merit him with my vote. Add the fact that he's 100% CBN, and that drives it home for me (admittedly, Susie is CBN as well, but I don't think that matters as much). Daniel can just handle so many different situations, especially when given support. Plus, Daniel decks, while not top tier, are certainly viable, and I had the pleasure of having my butt handed to me by someone playing a Daniel deck twice today.

Daniel is somewhat splashable, but the problem is if you splash him into a deck he won't have the support that other cards have.

I'm still not sure why Daniel got put in White instead of Green. He wouldn't have made it past first round in green, so he got shoved into a category with weaker heroes? (let's face it, TGT is why white is so powerful, not MMOJ and Susie)

Not counting Daniel, white had 11 heroes nominated.  One of those was Timothy.  The 8th non-Daniel hero in white had 6 nominations.

Not counting Daniel, green had 13 heroes nominated, all of whom are better than Timothy.  The 8th non-Daniel hero in green had 7 nominations.

I put Daniel where there were fewer nominated heroes, and where the 8th hero had fewer nominations.  As a plus, of the 7 heroes Daniel can band to, 3 are white. 0 are green.  The fact that green has better enhancements (and the fact that prophets have better artifact and fortress support) would have tilted me toward green, but the fact that green already had so many decent heroes to include meant that Daniel went to white.  Who knows, maybe he'll represent green next year.

Maybe Daniel was placed in white because he has a common denominator with him :p