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Which is the better Redemption hero?

Philip
24 (58.5%)
Abigail
17 (41.5%)

Total Members Voted: 36

Voting closed: March 08, 2012, 09:57:53 PM

Author Topic: Round 1 - Purple - Philip or Abigail  (Read 5220 times)

Offline SomeKittens

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Re: Round 1 - Purple - Philip or Abigail
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2012, 01:31:06 PM »
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Fascinating discussion folks, keep it up.  I just got a new idea for a deck.
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Re: Round 1 - Purple - Philip or Abigail
« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2012, 01:38:09 PM »
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Fascinating discussion folks, keep it up.  I just got a new idea for a deck.
Anti-meta?  ;D

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Re: Round 1 - Purple - Philip or Abigail
« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2012, 01:42:17 PM »
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Fascinating discussion folks, keep it up.  I just got a new idea for a deck.
Anti-meta?  ;D
Nope, I'll leave that up to those who are actually good at this game.
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Re: Round 1 - Purple - Philip or Abigail
« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2012, 01:47:56 PM »
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They do not hit them equally at all.  Household idols devastates Sam's banding chains, whereas Gardensciples only has a couple of banding chains, that it can go without (though it is still hurt without them).  Nazareth and HSR hit Sam much harder since it can't use the angels to search out Sam and can't use Sam's drawing, while it only hurts Gardensciples a little as it stops the searching out of the Tomb by Salome and the Philip's search for Bart (and birth foretold if you want to use it), but  none of that is really necessary for a Gardensciples deck to work (note: I'm leaving out cards like Am Slave and Harvest Time which are likely to be in both decks, since obviously these are hit the same for both decks).  Rain Becomes Dust does hit both relatively equally (though it doesn't hit Susanna), but Gardensciples can use Passover Hymn from territory or, if necessary, My Lord and My God to hit RBD.  Golgatha is the only anti-meta card that really hits Garden Tomb harder, however it doesn't go with a lot of defenses because of the limitation of only making N.T. evil characters Cannot be Ignored, and many of the best defenses are O.T.

So what I'm getting from this is of all the anti-meta cards you listed they both do hurt Sams and Garden (which is equally enough in my opinion) but your only discretion is the amount of the pain received by each. Some of your evaluations I agree with but some I do not (Naz stopping Salome is a crucial tech as it prevents Garden from exploding early. Also stops possibly the best 2 hero band in the game). Unfortunately, none of this really matters to anti-meta at all because lets be honest, there are plenty of soft and hard counters against both archetypes, and a true anti-meta has enough room in their decks to have all of them at their disposal.

I also remember Garden having an absolutely horrible matchup against Philistines, while Sams have Asahel and plenty of CBN battle winners to kill off anything.

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Re: Round 1 - Purple - Philip or Abigail
« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2012, 02:36:44 PM »
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It has to be Philip I mean I am named after him.
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