Author Topic: Round 1 - Green - Simeon or Armorbearer (Read 6883 times)

Red · « **Reply #25 on:** March 05, 2012, 11:11:23 PM »

HT's only work if the green prophet is lone. Just throwing that out there. But amorbearer is still better.

Red Wing · « **Reply #26 on:** March 05, 2012, 11:14:10 PM »

Quote from: Red on March 05, 2012, 11:11:23 PM

HT's only work if the green prophet is lone.

Yeah, but just Simeon+Anna and maybe an enhancement or two should be enough against meta defenses.

TheHobbit13 · « **Reply #27 on:** March 05, 2012, 11:19:15 PM »

It's time to make some library accounts boys... Armorbearer has got to go.

LordZardeck · « **Reply #28 on:** March 05, 2012, 11:39:36 PM »

Quote from: Red Wing on March 05, 2012, 11:14:10 PM

Quote from: Red on March 05, 2012, 11:11:23 PM
HT's only work if the green prophet is lone.
Yeah, but just Simeon+Anna and maybe an enhancement or two should be enough against meta defenses.

I keep seeing this but have no idea what it is. What IS meta?

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #29 on:** March 05, 2012, 11:48:36 PM »

Quote from: LordZardeck on March 05, 2012, 11:39:36 PM

Quote from: Red Wing on March 05, 2012, 11:14:10 PM
Quote from: Red on March 05, 2012, 11:11:23 PM
HT's only work if the green prophet is lone.
Yeah, but just Simeon+Anna and maybe an enhancement or two should be enough against meta defenses.

I keep seeing this but have no idea what it is. What IS meta?

Unholy Writ, Uzzah, Gomer, KoT, Sabbath Breaker, Ammy Slave, Haman's Plot. And all the dominants.

Sorry, didn't understand the question initially. That would be a meta defense.

Meta game is basically what's popular. Everybody seems to be playing that defense, therefore, it's meta. Meta offenses include Samuel, Gardenciples, and Genesis.

Master KChief · « **Reply #30 on:** March 06, 2012, 12:12:47 AM »

And anti-meta are those who oppose the meta *cough* Ring Wraith *cough cough*.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #31 on:** March 06, 2012, 12:13:34 AM »

Quote from: Master KChief on March 06, 2012, 12:12:47 AM

And anti-meta are those who oppose the meta *cough* Ring Wraith *cough cough*.

Anti-meta today is basically Rain becomes dust.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #32 on:** March 06, 2012, 12:17:12 AM »

Quote from: Master KChief on March 06, 2012, 12:12:47 AM

And anti-meta are those who oppose the meta *cough* Ring Wraith *cough cough*.

This year I've spent the most deck building time building anti-meta decks. I have yet to try one out.

Master KChief · « **Reply #33 on:** March 06, 2012, 12:17:51 AM »

Anti-meta is the plethora of counters Cactus creates in an attempt to balance the brokensauce of the last expansion. Usually very unsuccessfully.

Captain Kirk · « **Reply #34 on:** March 07, 2012, 06:49:56 PM »

A tie? Wow - how do you determine a tie breaker?

Kirk

Professoralstad · « **Reply #35 on:** March 07, 2012, 06:52:14 PM »

Quote from: Captain Kirk on March 07, 2012, 06:49:56 PM

A tie? Wow - how do you determine a tie breaker?

Kirk

Usually Bryon doesn't vote until the last possible time, so he more or less decides tie breakers. At least that's how it worked last year.

Bryon · « **Reply #36 on:** March 07, 2012, 11:36:16 PM »

Yeah, Kurt and I will discuss/vote. If we don't agree, we'll flip a coin. It only happened once last year, iirc.

This is a tough one. These guys were seeded #4 and #5, and they had the exact same number of nominations.

Simeon's protection from CM is really nice, especially in MP, and the added capture protection from Caves or Anna is nice, too.
Although, Armorbearer has SOOOOO many (and better) heroes to band to.

I'm leaning toward Armorbearer for this year. As the number of N.T. prophets grows, Simeon will get better.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #37 on:** March 08, 2012, 12:19:38 AM »

Frankly, I think Simeon's the better hero. Armorbearer can band to lots of neat heroes, but if we used that as a qualification, Gathering would win every time.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #38 on:** March 08, 2012, 12:20:10 AM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on March 08, 2012, 12:19:38 AM

Frankly, I think Simeon's the better hero. Armorbearer can band to lots of neat heroes, but if we used that as a qualification, Gathering would win every time.

Except that Gathering lacks the most essential part of being the best hero.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #39 on:** March 08, 2012, 12:31:36 AM »

You can go ahead and use Gathering, but since the game will only last 3 turns, you're only helping your opponent.

Master KChief · « **Reply #40 on:** March 08, 2012, 12:57:08 AM »

Gathering used to be in many top tier decks a long time ago.

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #41 on:** March 08, 2012, 08:24:42 AM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on March 08, 2012, 12:20:10 AM

Quote from: SomeKittens on March 08, 2012, 12:19:38 AM
Frankly, I think Simeon's the better hero. Armorbearer can band to lots of neat heroes, but if we used that as a qualification, Gathering would win every time.

Except that Gathering lacks the most essential part of being the best hero.

Nobody uses it?

At any rate, Simeon is the better hero for sure, but not by much, and in the meantime, Armorbearer fits into much, much better decks.

Master KChief · « **Reply #42 on:** March 08, 2012, 09:36:24 AM »

Lets be honest, he only fits into a Sam deck. Fbtnb do not even use him.

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #43 on:** March 08, 2012, 09:38:19 AM »

Quote from: Master KChief on March 08, 2012, 09:36:24 AM

Lets be honest, he only fits into a Sam deck. Fbtnb do not even use him.

The two aren't mutually exclusive, and I'll take a Sam deck over NT prophets any day.

Master KChief · « **Reply #44 on:** March 08, 2012, 09:46:22 AM »

I'm finding these polls to be less and less of 'who is the better hero' and more of 'who is the hero that fits into the most popular decks this year'.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #45 on:** March 08, 2012, 09:47:34 AM »

Quote from: Master KChief on March 08, 2012, 09:46:22 AM

I'm finding these polls to be less and less of 'who is the better hero' and more of 'who is the hero that fits into the popular decks this year'.

*sigh* I agree. If people focused more on just the heroes, Armorbearer wouldn't even be nominated.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #46 on:** March 08, 2012, 10:26:16 AM »

Purple/Red Samuel decks wouldn't be the same without Armorbearer. He's a key hero in a powerful theme. A support card, sure, but still an important hero, which makes him pretty good.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #47 on:** March 08, 2012, 11:08:27 AM »

Except Purple/Red is one of the worst ways to play Sam.

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #48 on:** March 08, 2012, 11:12:37 AM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on March 08, 2012, 09:47:34 AM

Quote from: Master KChief on March 08, 2012, 09:46:22 AM
I'm finding these polls to be less and less of 'who is the better hero' and more of 'who is the hero that fits into the popular decks this year'.
*sigh* I agree. If people focused more on just the heroes, Armorbearer wouldn't even be nominated.

Yes, because a March Madness where Captain of the Host, TSA, Ira, and Benny win every round sounds much more interesting.

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Author Topic: Round 1 - Green - Simeon or Armorbearer (Read 6883 times)

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