Author Topic: Round 1 - Green - Isaiah or Benaiah (Read 5709 times)

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #25 on:** March 05, 2012, 02:01:13 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on March 05, 2012, 01:12:40 PM

I wouldn't vote for Samson or Gideon either.

Samuel then. Hands down one of the worst heroes without support.

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #26 on:** March 05, 2012, 04:05:05 PM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on March 05, 2012, 02:01:13 PM

Quote from: Minister Polarius on March 05, 2012, 01:12:40 PM
I wouldn't vote for Samson or Gideon either.
Samuel then. Hands down one of the worst heroes without support.

Most heroes are bad without support. Samuel has a CBN banding ability and the ability to d8 in T1. Not to mention the fact that he can be searched for.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #27 on:** March 05, 2012, 04:33:46 PM »

Quote from: Chronic Apathy on March 05, 2012, 04:05:05 PM

Quote from: Ring Wraith on March 05, 2012, 02:01:13 PM
Quote from: Minister Polarius on March 05, 2012, 01:12:40 PM
I wouldn't vote for Samson or Gideon either.
Samuel then. Hands down one of the worst heroes without support.

Most heroes are bad without support. Samuel has a CBN banding ability and the ability to d8 in T1. Not to mention the fact that he can be searched for.

That was my point. Samuel himself is not that good. Everything Samuel touches turns to gold. So then, we have to take into account support cards.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #28 on:** March 05, 2012, 04:52:36 PM »

Samuel himself is a +3, has CBN banding, stops Horses, has 2 very useful Brigades and identifiers, and good initiative. He's one of the best Heroes in the game even without all the support.

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #29 on:** March 05, 2012, 04:54:59 PM »

Strictly speaking, with no support, Sam is one of the worst. With a little support, he comes one of the best, and with a lot of the support (and based solely on the support) he's arguably the best.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #30 on:** March 05, 2012, 05:49:45 PM »

Well, with no support the best hero in the game is this one (FF). If you put Sam in a deck with no Green or Gold enhancements, nobody for him to band to, no Judge's Seat and no Davids or Sauls, of course he'd be a bad card, but that's really an absurd level of not counting support.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #31 on:** March 05, 2012, 06:18:21 PM »

TSA would be better. Having no support for your heroes doesn't mean your opponent won't have any support for their ECs.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #32 on:** March 05, 2012, 06:21:21 PM »

The point remains the same.

Bryon · « **Reply #33 on:** March 05, 2012, 06:26:23 PM »

You can vote based on zero support (TSA wins!) or "best with a little support" or all the way to "best with every card in the deck built around that particular hero."

How you base your vote is up to you.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #34 on:** March 05, 2012, 07:00:57 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on March 05, 2012, 05:49:45 PM

Well, with no support the best hero in the game is this one (FF). If you put Sam in a deck with no Green or Gold enhancements, nobody for him to band to, no Judge's Seat and no Davids or Sauls, of course he'd be a bad card, but that's really an absurd level of not counting support.

With no support, there is no way Susanna would have won last time. a 1/1 that basically draws one or puts the top card under the deck really isn't that special.

STAMP · « **Reply #35 on:** March 05, 2012, 07:04:59 PM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on March 05, 2012, 07:00:57 PM

Quote from: Minister Polarius on March 05, 2012, 05:49:45 PM
Well, with no support the best hero in the game is this one (FF). If you put Sam in a deck with no Green or Gold enhancements, nobody for him to band to, no Judge's Seat and no Davids or Sauls, of course he'd be a bad card, but that's really an absurd level of not counting support.

With no support, there is no way Susanna would have won last time. a 1/1 that basically draws one or puts the top card under the deck really isn't that special.

But she's got a great personality.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #36 on:** March 05, 2012, 07:06:56 PM »

Quote from: STAMP on March 05, 2012, 07:04:59 PM

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on March 05, 2012, 07:00:57 PM
Quote from: Minister Polarius on March 05, 2012, 05:49:45 PM
Well, with no support the best hero in the game is this one (FF). If you put Sam in a deck with no Green or Gold enhancements, nobody for him to band to, no Judge's Seat and no Davids or Sauls, of course he'd be a bad card, but that's really an absurd level of not counting support.

With no support, there is no way Susanna would have won last time. a 1/1 that basically draws one or puts the top card under the deck really isn't that special.

But she's got a great personality.

I don't know, her personality seems flat as cardstock to me.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #37 on:** March 05, 2012, 07:40:58 PM »

I don't think Susanna should have won last time. But most people vote on the merits of the characters with regard to the deck they're used in rather than on their own merits, so whoever wins is unlikely to actually be the best Hero.

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #38 on:** March 05, 2012, 07:42:13 PM »

The reason Susie won last year is because everyone went, "Wait! We don't want Thad to win!" Likewise, Manny only won because everyone went, "Wait! Goliath is untested! He can't win!"

SomeKittens · « **Reply #39 on:** March 05, 2012, 07:45:02 PM »

I think that Manny > Goliath.

Why exactly didn't we want Thad to win?

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #40 on:** March 05, 2012, 07:46:16 PM »

Maybe in this meta, but last year, Goliath deserved the win except for maybe Uzzah. We didn't want Thad to win because he's Thad.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #41 on:** March 05, 2012, 07:53:58 PM »

Thad was the best hero by far in t2, but he wasn't nearly as good in t1.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #42 on:** March 05, 2012, 07:54:50 PM »

He's still good in T1. I was rooting for him all the way.

Quote from: Chronic Apathy on March 05, 2012, 07:46:16 PM

We didn't want Thad to win because he's Thad.

Begging the question much?

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #43 on:** March 05, 2012, 07:55:46 PM »

He was decent, but certainly not the best. Top 4 at best.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #44 on:** March 05, 2012, 08:17:35 PM »

Thad was lucky that he was really hyped up. He shouldn't have made it out of Purple. John should have won that brigade.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #45 on:** March 05, 2012, 09:17:34 PM »

Or Phillip.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #46 on:** March 05, 2012, 09:43:05 PM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on March 05, 2012, 09:17:34 PM

Or Phillip.

I agree that Phillip was the best, but I didn't expect him to win. John was really good and very popular, so he had more of a chance.

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Author Topic: Round 1 - Green - Isaiah or Benaiah (Read 5709 times)

Warrior_Monk

Chronic Apathy

Warrior_Monk

Chronic Apathy

Rawrlolsauce!

Lamborghini_diablo

Lamborghini_diablo

Chronic Apathy

Chronic Apathy

Rawrlolsauce!

Rawrlolsauce!

Warrior_Monk

Warrior_Monk