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Asahel vs Susanna

Asahel
Susanna

Author Topic: Rd 4. (Red 2. Asahel Versus White 2. Susanna)  (Read 3842 times)

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Re: Rd 4. (Red 2. Asahel Versus White 2. Susanna)
« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2014, 12:50:23 PM »
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To recap my previous posts, minus my unnecessary arguing, here is why I voted Susie:
-TGT/NT women, as a theme, is more powerful than Red/WC, as a theme.
-Any white-focused TGT offense, I feel, would be better off with Susanna than without even though she cannot directly use the fort. She is the best tutor in the game, aside from Search/False Peace, because she lets you look at a # of cards based on the number of a specific type of Hero that you're going to have in play anyway if you're using that offense and bury any Souls you otherwise would have drawn amongst those cards. She also gets around all protection of the deck currently in the game (I believe). As such, I believe that Susie definitely "fits" in the TGT/NT women theme, at least if building it with a white focus.
-Both Heroes have good initiative, but I feel that Susie edges Asahel out just a bit with her low strength (as mentioned, the only ECs she loses initiative to, with any other NT women in play, are the 1/1 evil kings and maybe Bab Soldiers).

Have at it Redoubter (or any of the other 16 people that voted for Asahel). :P
« Last Edit: April 01, 2014, 03:06:31 PM by browarod »

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Re: Rd 4. (Red 2. Asahel Versus White 2. Susanna)
« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2014, 04:49:39 PM »
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Have at it Redoubter (or any of the other 16 people that voted for Asahel). :P

If you want to be technical, it is currently 17.

EDIT: To those downvoting, I know that he said "other 16."  That was part of the joke, that I was misreading his posts in small ways :P  Ah well, maybe it was too obscure of a joke  ;)
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Re: Rd 4. (Red 2. Asahel Versus White 2. Susanna)
« Reply #27 on: April 02, 2014, 12:10:52 PM »
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She lets you ... bury any Souls you otherwise would have drawn amongst those cards

This is a common misunderstanding of Susanna's ability.  She doesn't, on average, lead to Soul drought.  People tend to remember the few times she hits 50% LS and forget the times she hits 0% LS.  Susanna actually increases the chances of drawing a LS on a future turn whenever she hits no LS.

I'll take it one step further.  I'll put forward that she actually increases the chance you draw a LS on a future turn.  After using her ability, you have a deck that has the same number of LS, but one less non-LS card.  On average, across many many uses of her ability (including those that bury many LS and those that bury none), in the end, you draw slightly more LS, simply because your deck is thinner.

I picked Asahel, but I would have picked him, even if I did consider Susie a "soul-hider".
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