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Total Members Voted: 37
Voting closed: April 16, 2012, 11:33:28 AM
This the same philosophy that Stalin and Hitler held. I'm not equating you with Hitler, because you're not. I am saying though that you ought to be respectful of other opinions even if they may be annoying to you.
The parallel between politics and MM is that there is no legal definition of "best." In politics people are allowed to make their own definition of the "best" candidate. In MM there is no definition of "best" either, so people are allowed to vote the way they want.
That's just it it's in your opinion, people who vote otherwise have a different opinion. Should we silence people becasue they have a different opinion? This the same philosophy that Stalin and Hitler held. I'm not equating you with Hitler, because you're not. I am saying though that you ought to be respectful of other opinions even if they may be annoying to you.
You have been disrespectful to me this entire thread
Within reason, sure. But "I'm voting for a character because they beat my favorite character last round" has nothing to do with what is the best evil character, and thus, such voting criteria is irrelevant and skews the results. There's no definition of "best," so I don't mind people voting on a character because of that character and that character alone (as opposed to me, who tends to vote for what character has the best place in a strong theme), but voting because of things that have to do with the tournament itself, rather than the characters in the tournament, makes having a tournament at all pointless.QuoteI wouldn't say that finding the best character is really the point of the tournament. If we really wanted to figure out what the best character was (according to popular vote) we would have something more like the silent ballot instead of using brackets and match-ups, since the bracketing does a lot to skew results anyway. I see March Madness not so much as an attempt of find the best character, as it is a chance to support your favorite characters in a match up against other characters. Though I do agree that the idea of searching for the best character this way is a cool and very fun, I don't think it's the most effective one and as such can be used as an outlet for favoritism. Quote from: Chronic Apathy on April 15, 2012, 09:12:13 PMThis isn't politics, it's an internet tournament. I'm respectful of other opinions, but not when they have nothing to do with the actual point of the tournament. As an aside, I very rarely actually see someone fulfill Godwin's Law, so bravo.This may not be politics but I think you can find parallels to democracy in any kind of system that functions by popular vote. I would say that you have been respectful of other opinions, and I appreciate that greatly. I do admire your effort to keep the tournament 'on task' even though I disagree with it slightly. As for Godwin's Law, I didn't even think about it... In conclusion I'll just say that in an effort to find common ground and to bring some kind of resolution to this, I'll pledge to avoid voicing my opinions on characters that I think are 'best' for personal reasons. Sorry to cause such a stir, I just meant to point out that it's legal for each voter to base his opinion on whatever criteria he chooses. Blessings, Wings
I wouldn't say that finding the best character is really the point of the tournament. If we really wanted to figure out what the best character was (according to popular vote) we would have something more like the silent ballot instead of using brackets and match-ups, since the bracketing does a lot to skew results anyway. I see March Madness not so much as an attempt of find the best character, as it is a chance to support your favorite characters in a match up against other characters. Though I do agree that the idea of searching for the best character this way is a cool and very fun, I don't think it's the most effective one and as such can be used as an outlet for favoritism. Quote from: Chronic Apathy on April 15, 2012, 09:12:13 PMThis isn't politics, it's an internet tournament. I'm respectful of other opinions, but not when they have nothing to do with the actual point of the tournament. As an aside, I very rarely actually see someone fulfill Godwin's Law, so bravo.This may not be politics but I think you can find parallels to democracy in any kind of system that functions by popular vote. I would say that you have been respectful of other opinions, and I appreciate that greatly. I do admire your effort to keep the tournament 'on task' even though I disagree with it slightly. As for Godwin's Law, I didn't even think about it... In conclusion I'll just say that in an effort to find common ground and to bring some kind of resolution to this, I'll pledge to avoid voicing my opinions on characters that I think are 'best' for personal reasons. Sorry to cause such a stir, I just meant to point out that it's legal for each voter to base his opinion on whatever criteria he chooses. Blessings, Wings
This isn't politics, it's an internet tournament. I'm respectful of other opinions, but not when they have nothing to do with the actual point of the tournament. As an aside, I very rarely actually see someone fulfill Godwin's Law, so bravo.
Really? Hitler came up in THIS thread? Internet, you never cease to amaze.
WS -> SoT -> Gomer -> Male Evil Character makes a much better combo than Gomer -> KoT.
I'm mainly talking about the Orange KoT not the Gold one everyone uses
How often though do you see people use the Orange one though? The Meta defense won't use him cause of TGT and you really won't use the Orange exxcept in a Orange splash or Mono-Orange defense.
How often though do you see people use the Orange one though? The Meta defense won't use him cause of TGT and you really won't use the Orange except in a Orange splash or Mono-Orange defense.
I agree that the gold one is better than WS but this is about orange EC so anyone who voted for KoT just cause they like the gold KoT really isn't voting the way they should be.
C. It's not about which KoT is used. Sure, the gold one is better than the orange one, but the gold one is also better than Wandering Spirit, as is the orange KoT (IMO).