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Elite Eight: 1. Nebuchadnezzar vs. 1. King if Tyrus

Nebuchadnezzar
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King of Tyrus
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Voting closed: April 20, 2012, 03:08:25 PM

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Elite Eight: 1. Nebuchadnezzar vs. 1. King of Tyrus
« on: April 17, 2012, 03:08:25 PM »
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Who is the better EC?
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Re: Elite Eight: 1. Nebuchadnezzar vs. 1. King of Tyrus
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2012, 03:18:08 PM »
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Tough, but I'd really like to see KoT vs KoT…
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Re: Elite Eight: 1. Nebuchadnezzar vs. 1. King of Tyrus
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2012, 03:19:46 PM »
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I'm surprised that Nebby is winning this, I though for sure KoT would run away with this one... 



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Re: Elite Eight: 1. Nebuchadnezzar vs. 1. King of Tyrus
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2012, 03:39:11 PM »
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Nebuchadnezzar is terrible. KoT is boss. Nebby is shut down by so many things just sitting in the territory. KoT sits in the territory and makes people cry.

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Re: Elite Eight: 1. Nebuchadnezzar vs. 1. King of Tyrus
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2012, 03:54:04 PM »
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Also, King of Tyrus is easier to spell.
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Re: Elite Eight: 1. Nebuchadnezzar vs. 1. King of Tyrus
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2012, 04:17:15 PM »
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Nebuchadnezzar is terrible. KoT is boss. Nebby is shut down by so many things just sitting in the territory. KoT sits in the territory and makes people cry.

I don't cry at KoT.  Every meta deck I've ever made has at least 3 or 4 ways to easily deal with KoT.
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Re: Elite Eight: 1. Nebuchadnezzar vs. 1. King of Tyrus
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2012, 04:22:57 PM »
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Nebuchadnezzar is terrible. KoT is boss. Nebby is shut down by so many things just sitting in the territory. KoT sits in the territory and makes people cry.

I don't cry at KoT.  Every meta deck I've ever made has at least 3 or 4 ways to easily deal with KoT.
Every turtle deck I've ever made has at least 5-10 ways to easily deal with things that deal with KoT. Boom.

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Re: Elite Eight: 1. Nebuchadnezzar vs. 1. King of Tyrus
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2012, 04:48:07 PM »
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KOT vs KOT won't be interesting. Orange would win it by a huge margin.

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Re: Elite Eight: 1. Nebuchadnezzar vs. 1. King of Tyrus
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2012, 05:18:21 PM »
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you know you win things when you turn into a cow. gotta go with neb.

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Re: Elite Eight: 1. Nebuchadnezzar vs. 1. King of Tyrus
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2012, 07:15:34 PM »
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KoT is overrated all meta offenses can kill him he is useless for splash sorry Polarius I got nothing left in the tank I've said it all before and everyone knows my position.

Neb is actually useful (and is really scary) instead of just making me use any of the CBN ways I have to kill an EC in a deck that doesn't use defense anyway.

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Re: Elite Eight: 1. Nebuchadnezzar vs. 1. King of Tyrus
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2012, 08:14:22 PM »
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KoT v. KoT won't be interesting because it won't happen. I highly doubt KoT is going to take out Uzzah next round. Regardless, this round, I voted for Nebuchadnezzar, and here's why: Among the other things that he can do, Nebby is an almost-CBN auto-block if he pulls Belshazzar's Banquet, which is, quite simply, huge. He's also the best part of what may be the best mid-sized themed defense in the game right now (in T1), and if he has Horses on him, he can pull Nerg with his ability, then play an enhancement that's now CBN. To reiterate that, Nebby has the ability to, almost out of nowhere, potentially play something like Head of Gold with at least two Babylonians in play CBN. Yes, this is also something Nerg can do, but he doesn't have the surprise factor that Nebby does.

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Re: Elite Eight: 1. Nebuchadnezzar vs. 1. King of Tyrus
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2012, 08:55:54 AM »
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Neb loses to RLK's using Daniel though. ;)
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Re: Elite Eight: 1. Nebuchadnezzar vs. 1. King of Tyrus
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2012, 03:25:05 PM »
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Neb loses to RLK's using Daniel though. ;)

Because we all know that RLKs goes to nationals  ::)

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Re: Elite Eight: 1. Nebuchadnezzar vs. 1. King of Tyrus
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2012, 04:27:02 PM »
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Neb loses to RLK's using Daniel though. ;)

Because we all know that RLKs goes to nationals  ::)

Local ones do. I know, I lost to a couple last year.  :angel:

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Re: Elite Eight: 1. Nebuchadnezzar vs. 1. King of Tyrus
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2012, 04:50:01 PM »
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KoT is better in T1, Neb is better in T2. Considering only T2 players use defense, that explains this spread.
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!

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Re: Elite Eight: 1. Nebuchadnezzar vs. 1. King of Tyrus
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2012, 10:30:22 PM »
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the thing is neb gives you options, KOT is your only option if you use him. Thats why I'll go with neb.

(ok, having been off here for a few weeks, coming back and checking out the threads I am still in shock at how bad Neb beat Nerg, As a Babs player I know that the true powerhouse of crimson has got to be Nerg. I mean blocking from hand against to get inish or using horses means your only hope is AotL so go ahead and use it on Neb for me!!!) 

Oh and everyone I play uses it on Nerg not Neb, that says something.

Back to the point, Neb > KoT
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.

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Re: Elite Eight: 1. Nebuchadnezzar vs. 1. King of Tyrus
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2012, 10:37:16 PM »
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Neb is 2nd right behind TAS in terms of the ultimate toolbox EC. Because of this, he is still a huge powerhouse in T1...insta-battle winner, huge numbers against FBTN, or your 2nd Uzzah. Kind of hard to pass all that versatility up.
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Re: Elite Eight: 1. Nebuchadnezzar vs. 1. King of Tyrus
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2012, 10:41:40 PM »
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I'd actually argue that having neb may be more versatile than TAS. People always forget that Neb can search for characters, or they just never think of it. Some of my favorite looks from Opponents come form when my Neb with horses searchers for Nerg and then BOOM!!! Then it's either How'd you do that! or the quiet sad face  :'(
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.

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Re: Elite Eight: 1. Nebuchadnezzar vs. 1. King of Tyrus
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2012, 12:04:12 AM »
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I'd actually argue that having neb may be more versatile than TAS. People always forget that Neb can search for characters, or they just never think of it. Some of my favorite looks from Opponents come form when my Neb with horses searchers for Nerg and then BOOM!!! Then it's either How'd you do that! or the quiet sad face  :'(

That's my favorite part about Nebby, searching for Leviathan.  FBTNB offenses make major sadface when that happens.  ;D
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Re: Elite Eight: 1. Nebuchadnezzar vs. 1. King of Tyrus
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2012, 12:15:53 AM »
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Step 1: Add Nazareth to your deck.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit.

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Re: Elite Eight: 1. Nebuchadnezzar vs. 1. King of Tyrus
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2012, 12:19:38 AM »
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Step 1: Add Nazareth to your deck.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit.

Genesis and Sam both get shut down by Naz, and thus, won't add it. Many TGT decks won't add it either.

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Re: Elite Eight: 1. Nebuchadnezzar vs. 1. King of Tyrus
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2012, 12:21:12 AM »
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Step 1: Add Nazareth to your deck.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit.

Genesis and Sam both get shut down by Naz, and thus, won't add it. Many TGT decks won't add it either.
Considering you shut down the most popular offense, I think it's worth having a slightly inferior one for yourself, such as FBTNB with teal splash.

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Re: Elite Eight: 1. Nebuchadnezzar vs. 1. King of Tyrus
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2012, 12:50:50 AM »
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And thus begins your construction of an anti-meta deck
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.

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Re: Elite Eight: 1. Nebuchadnezzar vs. 1. King of Tyrus
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2012, 12:56:14 AM »
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Step 1: Add Nazareth to your deck.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit.

Genesis and Sam both get shut down by Naz, and thus, won't add it. Many TGT decks won't add it either.
Considering you shut down the most popular offense, I think it's worth having a slightly inferior one for yourself, such as FBTNB with teal splash.

Don't get me wrong, the deck I'm playing right now uses Naz, which helped me get a win in my last ROOT game. I agree that it's a strong card, I'm just pointing out that most offenses won't use it.

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Re: Elite Eight: 1. Nebuchadnezzar vs. 1. King of Tyrus
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2012, 08:54:49 AM »
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KoT is better in T1, Neb is better in T2. Considering only T2 players use defense, that explains this spread.
This is wrong cause I use a T1 deck all the time but it is a balanced deck with some speed.

 


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