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Total Members Voted: 37
Voting closed: April 06, 2012, 05:07:25 PM
NergalPros:BabOnly CBN crimsonW/CCons:Needs another babNeeds Swift Horses or he'll never get inishDoesn't have many great enhancements to play on himNebbyshashPros:Switches souls (can win battles and games)Cons: NegatableNebbyshash is awesome.
It's super close for me but I'm gonna go Nergal here. yes he takes a bit of set up but he makes crimson battle winners into CBN beasts. It takes set up sure, but once he is set up it's really really tough to get past. It's super close though, I may actually come back and change it later.
Quote from: Wings of Music on April 01, 2012, 06:53:35 PMIt's super close for me but I'm gonna go Nergal here. yes he takes a bit of set up but he makes crimson battle winners into CBN beasts. It takes set up sure, but once he is set up it's really really tough to get past. It's super close though, I may actually come back and change it later. You should probably change it now. Besides, name 3 good Crimson battle winners.
That's true I didn't think about those. Capture protection/prevention is relatively prevalent in my local meta so captures didn't come right to my mind. But yeah those can be awesome battle-winners based on who you're matched up with.
I can only think of two good battle winners . B's Banquet, and Nebby's Pride. But there's Great image (not a battle winner but can win games if played right), and don't forget imitating evil which can bring back Nebbys pride or B's banquet.
Quote from: Wings of Music on April 01, 2012, 07:24:22 PMI can only think of two good battle winners . B's Banquet, and Nebby's Pride. But there's Great image (not a battle winner but can win games if played right), and don't forget imitating evil which can bring back Nebbys pride or B's banquet.And Bel's Banquet kills Nerg. Have fun with that one.As for Chronic, I hold to that capture protection is far too rampant for them to stop, T1 or T2. Obby's Caves alone shuts it down.
Quote from: Ring Wraith on April 01, 2012, 07:45:08 PMQuote from: Wings of Music on April 01, 2012, 07:24:22 PMI can only think of two good battle winners . B's Banquet, and Nebby's Pride. But there's Great image (not a battle winner but can win games if played right), and don't forget imitating evil which can bring back Nebbys pride or B's banquet.And Bel's Banquet kills Nerg. Have fun with that one.As for Chronic, I hold to that capture protection is far too rampant for them to stop, T1 or T2. Obby's Caves alone shuts it down.I think it's possible to stop capture protection for one turn. Obi's Caves shut it down, but protecting Joseph, Sam, and a Prophets deck isn't really that huge of a deal, especially if you manage to get off a Great Image in the late-game. Otherwise, capture protection is limited since Disciples (and thus, Phil/Bart) isn't dominating the meta this year, and most themes require a dedicated artifact for said protection. I hold that Head of Gold has a much, much better chance of being a game-changer than it was last year.
Quote from: Chronic Apathy on April 01, 2012, 07:49:09 PMQuote from: Ring Wraith on April 01, 2012, 07:45:08 PMQuote from: Wings of Music on April 01, 2012, 07:24:22 PMI can only think of two good battle winners . B's Banquet, and Nebby's Pride. But there's Great image (not a battle winner but can win games if played right), and don't forget imitating evil which can bring back Nebbys pride or B's banquet.And Bel's Banquet kills Nerg. Have fun with that one.As for Chronic, I hold to that capture protection is far too rampant for them to stop, T1 or T2. Obby's Caves alone shuts it down.I think it's possible to stop capture protection for one turn. Obi's Caves shut it down, but protecting Joseph, Sam, and a Prophets deck isn't really that huge of a deal, especially if you manage to get off a Great Image in the late-game. Otherwise, capture protection is limited since Disciples (and thus, Phil/Bart) isn't dominating the meta this year, and most themes require a dedicated artifact for said protection. I hold that Head of Gold has a much, much better chance of being a game-changer than it was last year.Don't forget Soldiers snipe an artifact, and forest fire can too, and Axe can hit a fortress. So its not like they have no answers for capture protection.
The game will be almost over before you get that set up. Nebby is basically an autoblock (and can rid you of at least one soul with SoG/NJ) and can be used in any deck.
I don't think he has any use outside of a Babylonian deck.
...and Nergal does?
And yes, swapping LS is nice, but I actually see players stopping the use of any LS they can't rescue, as the swapping with start to creep into meta. Thus, an OT offense won't be using the NT-only as much (or they'll use FBTN LS).
Quote from: Redoubter on April 02, 2012, 12:42:38 AMAnd yes, swapping LS is nice, but I actually see players stopping the use of any LS they can't rescue, as the swapping with start to creep into meta. Thus, an OT offense won't be using the NT-only as much (or they'll use FBTN LS).OT offenses basically have to use the FBTN LS no matter what their deck is.
Quote from: jmhartz on April 02, 2012, 08:01:33 AMQuote from: Redoubter on April 02, 2012, 12:42:38 AMAnd yes, swapping LS is nice, but I actually see players stopping the use of any LS they can't rescue, as the swapping with start to creep into meta. Thus, an OT offense won't be using the NT-only as much (or they'll use FBTN LS).OT offenses basically have to use the FBTN LS no matter what their deck is.I would that agree with that statement entirely, but for the most part I would agree, I think if you have the exchanger + a bunch of soul gen + an alternative way to negate lost souls included in your deck I think you're ok to drop FBTN.
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