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Re: Why does everyone dislike The Garden Tomb?
« Reply #50 on: December 11, 2010, 02:34:09 PM »
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this is the last time i will post on this thread but i will say that we as players have to be nicer to the people who are bringing us this great game instead of fighting them every chance we get.

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Re: Why does everyone dislike The Garden Tomb?
« Reply #51 on: December 11, 2010, 03:59:19 PM »
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+1  You think  my post was negative? I was refencing the players who were trying to manpulate a outdated rule to their advantage.
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Re: Why does everyone dislike The Garden Tomb?
« Reply #52 on: December 11, 2010, 04:32:23 PM »
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actually i will post again. i was not refering to red. i was talking about the players as a rule being rude to the people who deserve more respect.

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Re: Why does everyone dislike The Garden Tomb?
« Reply #53 on: December 11, 2010, 04:34:24 PM »
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Not talking to you sorry. Shoulda put people who -1'd me and others who dislike my post.
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Re: Why does everyone dislike The Garden Tomb?
« Reply #54 on: December 11, 2010, 04:54:36 PM »
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Okay, you guys are all correct and I and the entire history of the game are wrong.  You officially never have an opponent unless two players have characters in the Field of Battle.  Have fun with that.

can we please get a second elder to make this official??
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Re: Why does everyone dislike The Garden Tomb?
« Reply #55 on: December 11, 2010, 04:55:57 PM »
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Can we also get free Dew and pizza at tournaments?
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Re: Why does everyone dislike The Garden Tomb?
« Reply #56 on: December 11, 2010, 05:01:54 PM »
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and free booster draft to go with :D
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Re: Why does everyone dislike The Garden Tomb?
« Reply #57 on: December 11, 2010, 05:02:33 PM »
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actually i will post again. i was not refering to red. i was talking about the players as a rule being rude to the people who deserve more respect.

No one was being rude, you have to understand that every Redemption discussion happens withing the context of the game and therefore should only be looked at within the context of the game. Intelligent people like pol, sauce, raith, and Schaef etc get into arguments over rules and semantics because they are intuitive. Naturally their minds are opposed to inconsistency and in tune with logic and reason. Therefore they do everything in their power to try and fix these inconsistencies. The controversy arises when people have different oppnions of what is right and wrong. Now sometimes (and in this case as well), because of the impersonal median that is the computer, discussions such as these are misunderstood by those looking in and are inevitably labeled as flame wars. So rather than saying that people are rude blame it on Al Gore.
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Re: Why does everyone dislike The Garden Tomb?
« Reply #58 on: December 11, 2010, 05:12:13 PM »
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i didn't want to get involved but now i am.
actually i will post again. i was not refering to red. i was talking about the players as a rule being rude to the people who deserve more respect.

No one was being rude, you have to understand that every Redemption discussion happens withing the context of the game and therefore should only be looked at within the context of the game. Intelligent people like pol, sauce, raith, and Schaef etc get into arguments over rules and semantics because they are intuitive. Naturally their minds are opposed to inconsistency and in tune with logic and reason. Therefore they do everything in their power to try and fix these inconsistencies. The controversy arises when people have different oppnions of what is right and wrong. Now sometimes (and in this case as well), because of the impersonal median that is the computer, discussions such as these are misunderstood by those looking in and are inevitably labeled as flame wars. So rather than saying that people are rude blame it on Al Gore.

this is an classic example of somebody taking something i said out of context. in order to see every single meaning i have in my posts you have to read all my other posts in the thread. (i have to learn to be more clear) with this said, i was refrencing how frustrated people are with the reg and how tired i am of seeing the same old comments over and over again.

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Re: Why does everyone dislike The Garden Tomb?
« Reply #59 on: December 11, 2010, 05:23:48 PM »
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Keep in mind, if this rule changes, a LOT of other cards would be broken.

Wall of Protection, Judges Seat, Marketplace, Herod's Temple, Pithom, Dust and Ashes, Wolves in Sheeps Clothing, Nazereth (vs mayhem), etc...

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Re: Why does everyone dislike The Garden Tomb?
« Reply #60 on: December 11, 2010, 05:26:25 PM »
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i didn't want to get involved but now i am.
actually i will post again. i was not refering to red. i was talking about the players as a rule being rude to the people who deserve more respect.

No one was being rude, you have to understand that every Redemption discussion happens withing the context of the game and therefore should only be looked at within the context of the game. Intelligent people like pol, sauce, raith, and Schaef etc get into arguments over rules and semantics because they are intuitive. Naturally their minds are opposed to inconsistency and in tune with logic and reason. Therefore they do everything in their power to try and fix these inconsistencies. The controversy arises when people have different oppnions of what is right and wrong. Now sometimes (and in this case as well), because of the impersonal median that is the computer, discussions such as these are misunderstood by those looking in and are inevitably labeled as flame wars. So rather than saying that people are rude blame it on Al Gore.

this is an classic example of somebody taking something i said out of context. in order to see every single meaning i have in my posts you have to read all my other posts in the thread. (i have to learn to be more clear) with this said, i was refrencing how frustrated people are with the reg and how tired i am of seeing the same old comments over and over again.

I know what you mean, all I was saying is that the people are not trying to be rude this thread is mostly a joke anyway.

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Re: Why does everyone dislike The Garden Tomb?
« Reply #61 on: December 11, 2010, 05:28:37 PM »
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actually your wrong this thread is not a joke its currently the end of the redemption world and totally ruins everything ive done for the past 4 months but no one cares about that.
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Re: Why does everyone dislike The Garden Tomb?
« Reply #62 on: December 11, 2010, 05:30:45 PM »
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That REG quote is outdated. So yes TGT works. Why do I say this? This was posted by SAUCE he's a troll so don't take this thread as anything coherenent.
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Re: Why does everyone dislike The Garden Tomb?
« Reply #63 on: December 11, 2010, 05:32:15 PM »
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doesn't matter he got schaeff to break what says he can't make someone else so he gets whatever he wants for his ulterior motives and we all pay the price because of him we all suffer cause of what he thinks is funny
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Re: Why does everyone dislike The Garden Tomb?
« Reply #64 on: December 11, 2010, 05:32:34 PM »
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For the record, I do not feel like I was "trying to be cute" or "trying to split hairs". I honestly thought that we had been playing an aspect of the game wrong (which has happened before, so it isn't out of the question). After reading the definition of block, among a few other things, I have changed stances. I still support my opinion at the time I stated it.

Also, I disagree with this being unimportant, but if you don't feel it is worth your time and energy to clarify this for me don't feel obligated.

Who is my opponent at any time? Why can I play HT on anyone, even if I'm in battle with someone else or don't attack that player, but I can't attack player A with Nathan and make player B shuffle?

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Re: Why does everyone dislike The Garden Tomb?
« Reply #65 on: December 11, 2010, 05:38:22 PM »
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New Thread: http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=24719.0. Locking this one thanks to this last page of posts.

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Re: Why does everyone dislike The Garden Tomb?
« Reply #66 on: December 11, 2010, 05:42:16 PM »
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"An" or "any" opponent is anyone else at the table with you.  "Your" opponent is the one you're battling at that moment.  Since battles tend to have my characters against your characters, then reasonably, the guy whose characters are fighting my characters is "the" opponent.  This is specific enough to clarify that it's not just anyone at the table, but general enough to be more accurate than saying "the guy blocking the rescue", because from the blocker's perspective, the rescuer is the opponent.

From time to time one party or the other may temporarily have no characters in the battle at that exact moment but that does not change this very basic formula which has been the foundation of battles in Redemption, and really, in every (competitive) card game ever made.

 


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