Author Topic: What makes Samuel and Genesis so fast (Read 3646 times)

Neil Da BOMB J · « **on:** September 21, 2011, 02:42:30 PM »

I was just reading a dffernt thread and the OP mentioned Samuel and Genesis decks being fast.
What makes them fast?

SomeKittens · « **Reply #1 on:** September 21, 2011, 02:53:01 PM »

Samuel has a LOT of drawing (8+ cards per rescue attempt).

Genesis can search for whatever it wants, and then draws a ton from the Egyptian defense.

Neil Da BOMB J · « **Reply #2 on:** September 21, 2011, 03:15:52 PM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on September 21, 2011, 02:53:01 PM

Samuel has a LOT of drawing (8+ cards per rescue attempt).

You mean like Samuel/David and maybe some judges.

Red · « **Reply #3 on:** September 21, 2011, 03:23:39 PM »

Quote from: Neil Da BOMB J on September 21, 2011, 03:15:52 PM

Quote from: SomeKittens on September 21, 2011, 02:53:01 PM
Samuel has a LOT of drawing (8+ cards per rescue attempt).

You mean like Samuel/David and maybe some judges.

Look at a card from the red new tin and a card from warriors.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #4 on:** September 21, 2011, 03:27:55 PM »

The ideal band goes something like this: Angel Under the Oak --> Samuel --> Armorbearer --> Ishmaiah the Gibeonite --> any OT WC guy you want. That's 7 cards drawn and 1 card searched. Use that a couple times and you've got your whole deck.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #5 on:** September 21, 2011, 03:37:31 PM »

There's ways to push it further, using King Hiram and The Throne of David.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #6 on:** September 21, 2011, 03:39:48 PM »

I forgot Throne could draw. Make that 9+ cards drawn and 1 searched.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #7 on:** September 21, 2011, 03:59:32 PM »

Genesis is fast not because of huge+ at once, but because of massive amounts of

. Answer to Prayer, Well Reopened, Angel at Shur, Stone Pillar, Zebulun, Numerous as the Stars, and Rachel are all effectively

, Dan is +2, Eve can be +anything, and Creation of the World is +5-8 and also a battle-winner.

Another thing that makes both of them so fast is that their centerpiece is silly easy to get. With Samuel, all you need is Samuel OR Angel under the Oak OR Angel with a Secret Name OR Mayhem OR Wheel within a Wheel in your opening hand. For Genesis you need Joseph OR Rachel OR Stone Pillar OR Angel at Shur OR Answer to Prayer OR Numerous as the Stars OR Mayhem. Generally speaking, if these decks don't have their main hero out by turn three at the very latest, then something is very wrong.

Carl deuty · « **Reply #8 on:** September 21, 2011, 04:00:59 PM »

Samuel negates play abilities so you couldn't use him if you want to use throne of dave

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #9 on:** September 21, 2011, 04:01:50 PM »

TToD still draws.

megamanlan · « **Reply #10 on:** September 21, 2011, 08:58:45 PM »

Dan isn't used. And u forgot Leah and Joseph who also search up to 10 more cards. Creation is hard to play because it's Green.

But Genesis has an infinite recurring w/ Asher, + 2 recurr Enhancements. I know because I play them. If u play it right it can be an easy OTK deck.
Just needs Dinah.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #11 on:** September 21, 2011, 09:32:01 PM »

lol@Dan isn't used but Leah is.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #12 on:** September 21, 2011, 10:14:16 PM »

Quote from: megamanlan on September 21, 2011, 08:58:45 PM

Just needs Dinah.

And Issachar, Naphtali, and most importantly...GAD!

megamanlan · « **Reply #13 on:** September 22, 2011, 12:54:00 AM »

Yea.

I never said she wasnt. I use her in my Genesis Deck.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #14 on:** September 22, 2011, 01:20:25 AM »

Quote from: megamanlan on September 22, 2011, 12:54:00 AM

I never said she wasnt. I use her in my Genesis Deck.

He said "lol @ (that statement)" because Leah is generally not used, while Dan is.

Master KChief · « **Reply #15 on:** September 22, 2011, 02:25:03 AM »

otk? that doesnt even exist in redemption.

megamanlan · « **Reply #16 on:** September 22, 2011, 04:09:21 AM »

Quote from: Master KChief on September 22, 2011, 02:25:03 AM

otk? that doesnt even exist in redemption.

Apparently it does, because it's happened before, or so I hear.

Master KChief · « **Reply #17 on:** September 22, 2011, 05:01:10 AM »

since OTK's in every ccg involve winning the entire game in one single turn, explain to me how its possible to rescue 5 lost souls in one turn.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #18 on:** September 22, 2011, 09:24:19 AM »

Quote from: Master KChief on September 22, 2011, 05:01:10 AM

since OTK's in every ccg involve winning the entire game in one single turn, explain to me how its possible to rescue 5 lost souls in one turn.

Son of God + New Jerusalem.
The Long Day + Primary Objective
Angel of Deliverance
Winning a battle

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #19 on:** September 22, 2011, 10:27:42 AM »

You can do it in t2, also.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #20 on:** September 22, 2011, 01:54:15 PM »

Quote from: Rawrlolsauce! on September 22, 2011, 10:27:42 AM

You can do it in t2, also.

Angel of Deliverance x4 + Primary Objective + SoG + NJ. This is actually much easier.

lightningninja · « **Reply #21 on:** September 22, 2011, 04:00:10 PM »

So angel of Deliverance IS that broken? Nice...

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #22 on:** September 22, 2011, 04:22:48 PM »

Well, you have to manipulate your opponent to put a bunch of captured heroes in sites, but he's almost as broken as Eleazar's Sword.

lightningninja · « **Reply #23 on:** September 22, 2011, 04:30:28 PM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on September 22, 2011, 04:22:48 PM

Well, you have to manipulate your opponent to put a bunch of captured heroes in sites, but he's almost as broken as Eleazar's Sword.

Right, it's strange because I was looking through some cards and found him and was about to make a thread asking if his ability actually could just rescue a ls after a rescue attempt, or if it was just outdated wording. Interesting. I might have to try this...

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