Author Topic: What about Samuel? (Read 6501 times)

Korunks · « **on:** September 08, 2011, 09:12:29 AM »

So I keep hearing Samuel decks are currently top decks but he doesn't seem to be that useful, what Am I missing?

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #1 on:** September 08, 2011, 09:23:01 AM »

Quote from: Korunks on September 08, 2011, 09:12:29 AM

So I keep hearing Samuel decks are currently top decks but he doesn't seem to be that useful, what Am I missing?

Angel at the Oak (D2)--> Samuel (search and D2) + Armorbearer + Ishmaiah (D3) + Asahelm+ King Saul (with The Throne of David out).

You get to draw 9, search for 1, and draw off of TTOD, as well as play first. You also will have Bravery of David, Samuel's Edict, Reach, and AOCP in the deck, and it'll be totally okay. There's also a multitude of ways to get him out. Personally, I don't think he's broken, although definitely good, but we've known that since before everybody was saying "AHIMILEK IS BROKEN BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE SAYS IT IS! BANZORZ! MORE BROKEN THAN UMAD-THAD! ...oh...wait...it's been a month...JOSEPH AND SAMUEL ARE BROKEN! BAN HAMMAH! AHIMILEK IS A N00B COMPARED TO THESE GUYS!"

Pretty soon we'll have people saying Que is broken...

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #2 on:** September 08, 2011, 09:44:19 AM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on September 08, 2011, 09:23:01 AM

Personally, I don't think he's broken, although definitely good, but we've known that since before everybody was saying "AHIMILEK IS BROKEN BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE SAYS IT IS! BANZORZ! MORE BROKEN THAN UMAD-THAD! ...oh...wait...it's been a month...JOSEPH AND SAMUEL ARE BROKEN! BAN HAMMAH! AHIMILEK IS A N00B COMPARED TO THESE GUYS!"

I think this is a great point. In August, Ahimilek and Isaiah were the flavors of the month. This month Joseph and Samuel are the flavors of the month. Next month it will probably be someone else. This is a natural process of players adjusting to the new cards and seeing how they affect the meta. Enjoy the ride, and see where things solidify after Christmas

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #3 on:** September 08, 2011, 09:48:34 AM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on September 08, 2011, 09:23:01 AM

Angel at the Oak (D2)--> Samuel (search and D2) + Prince Jonathan + Armorbearer + Ishmaiah (D2) + King David (with The Throne of David out).

Actually, you dont need prince jonathan in the band. Ishmaiah can draw 3 off Samuel - Armorbearer - Ishmaiah... he only checks for OT heroes, not WC.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #4 on:** September 08, 2011, 09:49:12 AM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on September 08, 2011, 09:48:34 AM

Quote from: Ring Wraith on September 08, 2011, 09:23:01 AM
Angel at the Oak (D2)--> Samuel (search and D2) + Prince Jonathan + Armorbearer + Ishmaiah (D2) + King David (with The Throne of David out).

Actually, you dont need prince jonathan in the band. Ishmaiah can draw 3 off Samuel - Armorbearer - Ishmaiah... he only checks for OT heroes, not WC.

I thought something was off there...thanks.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #5 on:** September 08, 2011, 10:48:47 AM »

Ishmiah bands to Asahel who bands to Saul.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #6 on:** September 08, 2011, 11:11:02 AM »

That's nothing. All I need to counter it is *checks math*... six dozen plots.

Master KChief · « **Reply #7 on:** September 08, 2011, 02:26:50 PM »

Quote

Angel at the Oak (D2)--> Samuel (search and D2) + Armorbearer + Ishmaiah (D3) + King David

im counting a +8 here, not 9. ishmaiah also does not band to king david, and there is a better king to have on the end than both david or saul.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #8 on:** September 08, 2011, 02:29:27 PM »

The ninth comes upon block with The Throne of David.

Master KChief · « **Reply #9 on:** September 08, 2011, 02:31:30 PM »

if they block. theres a way to get a guaranteed 9th before the ttod, though.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #10 on:** September 08, 2011, 02:34:06 PM »

Band to the king that draws or searches for an OT fortress.

Master KChief · « **Reply #11 on:** September 08, 2011, 02:37:52 PM »

helpful for getting to ttod in the first place as well.

only wish there was a way to have king solomon on the end...

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #12 on:** September 08, 2011, 02:39:11 PM »

Yeah, Oak (2) - Samuel (2+1) - Armorbearer -Ishmaiah (3) - Heldai - King Hiram (1) + TToD(1+)

10 cards minimum if they block. Granted, that combo IS a little convoluted, but the initial 4 hero combo is incredibly strong.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #13 on:** September 08, 2011, 02:41:09 PM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on September 08, 2011, 11:11:02 AM

That's nothing. All I need to counter it is *checks math*... six dozen plots.

Use Stalks of Flax, give them Joseph, play Joseph in Prison off of Phillies Chariot and Horses.

And no, I'm not offering this as a legitimate counter.

Master KChief · « **Reply #14 on:** September 08, 2011, 02:43:05 PM »

but stalks IS a legitimate counter. thanks for the tech.

lightningninja · « **Reply #15 on:** September 08, 2011, 02:47:49 PM »

Why is no one counting the guy that Samuel adds to battle? He adds a guy, and then can ALSO band.

Master KChief · « **Reply #16 on:** September 08, 2011, 02:53:49 PM »

we did, you get a + 1 from the search.

STAMP · « **Reply #17 on:** September 08, 2011, 02:54:41 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on September 08, 2011, 02:31:30 PM

if they block. theres a way to get a guaranteed 9th before the ttod, though.

More can be guaranteed with converted WC EC + WC D2/play next.

ChristianSoldier · « **Reply #18 on:** September 08, 2011, 04:21:49 PM »

Just remember Samuel negates Play abilities, so if he's in battle he negates the play ability on Throne of David (yes you still get a mass draw which is epic)

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #19 on:** September 08, 2011, 04:41:56 PM »

Quote from: ChristianSoldier on September 08, 2011, 04:21:49 PM

Just remember Samuel negates Play abilities, so if he's in battle he negates the play ability on Throne of David (yes you still get a mass draw which is epic)

So, maybe Babel + JIP is a legitimate counter...would Joseph then go to Obadiah's Caves?

CJSports · « **Reply #20 on:** September 08, 2011, 09:36:34 PM »

I like how RBD and CWD and CotM all ruin this. But you must take into account that these three cards practically ruin all offenses so....

Carry On.

Master KChief · « **Reply #21 on:** September 08, 2011, 09:43:10 PM »

i like how captured ark and destruction, which are far more accessible and playable in every deck, destroy all those counters. carry on.

Josh · « **Reply #22 on:** September 08, 2011, 09:52:27 PM »

Quote from: CJSports on September 08, 2011, 09:36:34 PM

I like how RBD and CWD and CotM all ruin this. But you must take into account that these three cards practically ruin all offenses so....

Carry On.

These have to get drawn and activated to work...

SomeKittens · « **Reply #23 on:** September 08, 2011, 10:40:02 PM »

I like how Lampy and Naz stop them both, and have applications beyond stopping those two cards.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #24 on:** September 08, 2011, 10:46:04 PM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on September 08, 2011, 10:40:02 PM

I like how Lampy and Naz stop them both, and have applications beyond stopping those two cards.

Naz is legitimate. Iron Pan can take care of Lampy.

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