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Title: Two Mayhems in one pack!?!? Pics inside!
Post by: The Guardian on May 02, 2018, 01:17:00 PM
Hey, it could happen...  8)

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*UPDATE* Well, I guess not...but it was a fun thing to think about.  :D
Title: Re: Two Mayhems in one pack!?!? Pics inside!
Post by: Jeremystair on May 02, 2018, 01:19:55 PM
So will we have the foil Mayhem in the packs or are we going to have the updated version. And it's pretty awesome to have a chance to get two in the same pack?
Title: Re: Two Mayhems in one pack!?!? Pics inside!
Post by: _JM_ on May 02, 2018, 01:21:00 PM
There's a chance at both, since TexP is included in the extra cards in the pack.
Title: Re: Two Mayhems in one pack!?!? Pics inside!
Post by: The Guardian on May 02, 2018, 01:22:17 PM
So will we have the foil Mayhem in the packs or are we going to have the updated version. And it's pretty awesome to have a chance to get two in the same pack?

My understanding is that Rob will be putting random TexP cards in the FoM packs so you could potentially get the foil Mayhem and the Legacy Rare Mayhem...imagine being in a booster draft and you get passed a TexP Mayhem... ;D
Title: Re: Two Mayhems in one pack!?!? Pics inside!
Post by: redemption collector 777 on May 02, 2018, 01:32:42 PM
In my opinion isn't this a little too much?? 

Rob has already set up a replacement program for mayhem which is offering I believe a Mayhem with the white borders around it.

Should this full art mayhem be the replacement for the foil mayhem instead??

and/or this legacy rare could be Grapes of wrath instead since Mayhem is lalready being replaced??

In my opinion I don't see it necessary to remake Mayhem twice... :dunno: :dunno: :dunno: :scratch:
Title: Re: Two Mayhems in one pack!?!? Pics inside!
Post by: The Guardian on May 02, 2018, 01:38:31 PM
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Should this full art mayhem be the replacement for the foil mayhem instead??

Nope--the idea is for this Mayhem to be a "chase" card. While it doesn't give an advantage over the old version, it looks amazing and has the updated ability text.

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and/or this legacy rare could be Grapes of wrath instead since Mayhem is lalready being replaced??

Grapes of Wrath is most definitely on the list of potential Legacy Rares for future sets.

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In my opinion I don't see it necessary to remake Mayhem twice...

This LR Mayhem is going to be fairly difficult to obtain. The odds of pulling a specific Legacy Rare will be around 1 in 93 packs (almost 4 boxes). Rob's replacement program with the TexP Mayhem will also allow Mayhem to continue being a part of the card pool if set rotation were to happen at some point down the road.  8)
Title: Re: Two Mayhems in one pack!?!? Pics inside!
Post by: Jeremystair on May 02, 2018, 01:39:15 PM
In my opinion isn't this a little too much?? 

Rob has already set up a replacement program for mayhem which is offering I believe a Mayhem with the white borders around it.

Should this full art mayhem be the replacement for the foil mayhem instead??

and/or this legacy rare could be Grapes of wrath instead since Mayhem is lalready being replaced??

In my opinion I don't see it necessary to remake Mayhem twice... :dunno: :dunno: :dunno: :scratch:

I guess that's what I was getting at as well I was wondering if he was going to give out the foil Mayhem and then just let people mail it back to him to get the white border Mayhem with the new updated wording or if he was just going to put the white border Mayhem in its place. Seem kind of strange especially if now there's a legacy Mayhem as well.
Title: Re: Two Mayhems in one pack!?!? Pics inside!
Post by: adevine on May 02, 2018, 04:05:50 PM
Yeah!!!!
Title: Re: Two Mayhems in one pack!?!? Pics inside!
Post by: Gabe on May 02, 2018, 04:35:34 PM
I guess that's what I was getting at as well I was wondering if he was going to give out the foil Mayhem and then just let people mail it back to him to get the white border Mayhem with the new updated wording or if he was just going to put the white border Mayhem in its place. Seem kind of strange especially if now there's a legacy Mayhem as well.

It's always easy to tell people how things should be done... until you're the one that has to do it. ::)

Both the new and excess cards are manually packaged using bulk cards. They have an efficient system in place for getting that done. What you're suggesting is that they should break down that system to manually check every Treasures card to ensure it's not Mayhem and replace it if it is. Adding extra labor to an already tedious task seems unnecessary. And some players have expressed that they would still rather have the old foil version. Rob has been generous enough to offer a replacement system. That should be enough.

I don't know either way what his plans are for this. But given what I know of the packaging system and the turn around time I doubt that the replacement Mayhems will be in FoM packs.
Title: Re: Two Mayhems in one pack!?!? Pics inside!
Post by: Kor on May 02, 2018, 06:37:34 PM
Looks great as a legacy rare.  Is it wrong that I want one even though I probably won't use it...?
Title: Re: Two Mayhems in one pack!?!? Pics inside!
Post by: Crashfach2002 on May 02, 2018, 10:07:48 PM
Is the Mayhem Rob is offering as a replacement this LR version or a different one?  Meaning, does the replacement have the LR16 on it as well?
Title: Re: Two Mayhems in one pack!?!? Pics inside!
Post by: NathanW on May 02, 2018, 10:09:34 PM
Is the Mayhem Rob is offering as a replacement this LR version or a different one?  Meaning, does the replacement have the LR16 on it as well?
It is a different one. Same as the original one only updated wording/design.
Title: Re: Two Mayhems in one pack!?!? Pics inside!
Post by: The Guardian on May 02, 2018, 10:17:19 PM
Is the Mayhem Rob is offering as a replacement this LR version or a different one?  Meaning, does the replacement have the LR16 on it as well?

This is the replacement program Mayhem--it is considered a part of the TexP set essentially (as indicated by the icon).

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Title: Re: Two Mayhems in one pack!?!? Pics inside!
Post by: VJ on May 03, 2018, 05:45:16 PM
So there is going to be 3 versions of the Mayhem card? 

Frustrated and broke,
VJ    :)
Title: Re: Two Mayhems in one pack!?!? Pics inside!
Post by: Isildur on May 03, 2018, 07:19:08 PM
So there is going to be 3 versions of the Mayhem card? 

Frustrated and broke,
VJ
Yes!
Title: Re: Two Mayhems in one pack!?!? Pics inside!
Post by: Gabe on May 03, 2018, 07:35:44 PM
Frustrated and broke,
VJ

I’m not sure the point you’re trying to get across here. Obviously we cannot stop making new cards because you cannot afford to collect them. And if it wasn’t Mayhem in that spot it would be something else.
Title: Re: Two Mayhems in one pack!?!? Pics inside!
Post by: VJ on May 04, 2018, 08:33:39 AM
Frustrated and broke,
VJ

I’m not sure the point you’re trying to get across here. Obviously we cannot stop making new cards because you cannot afford to collect them. And if it wasn’t Mayhem in that spot it would be something else.

Sorry, forgot my smiley face (updated my post).

This is a bit of an inside joke I have with my wife.  A few years ago I gave up the idea to collect all the cards because they were getting expensive and hard to cofllect.  At first, I was a bit frustrated, but I am better now.  It was just my OCD nature getting the best of me.

The inside joke is:  Rob keeps changing cards (new cards, AB versions of new cards and updated versions of old ones) to keep us OCD collecters "frustrated and broke."

Keep up the good work.

VJ
Title: Re: Two Mayhems in one pack!?!? Pics inside!
Post by: CactusRob on May 04, 2018, 11:29:57 AM
So will we have the foil Mayhem in the packs or are we going to have the updated version. And it's pretty awesome to have a chance to get two in the same pack?

My understanding is that Rob will be putting random TexP cards in the FoM packs so you could potentially get the foil Mayhem and the Legacy Rare Mayhem...imagine being in a booster draft and you get passed a TexP Mayhem... ;D

First, the replacement cards for Mayhem and Children of the Light have arrived.  Those that want to take advantage of my replacement offer can start mailing in their cards.

Second, if you receive a foil Mayhem in a Fall of Man pack it's only because we missed it.  We are pulling the TeP version Mayhem from the mix before they go into the packs. I.E. only 59 TeP cards (not 60) are in the Fall of Man mix.

Third, for TeP packs that we have already assembled, there should still be 1 Mayhem in every 30 packs.  We are not going to open packs already assembled to pull them out.
Title: Re: Two Mayhems in one pack!?!? Pics inside!
Post by: Cnakeeyes on May 04, 2018, 11:33:13 AM
Frustrated and broke,
VJ

I’m not sure the point you’re trying to get across here. Obviously we cannot stop making new cards because you cannot afford to collect them. And if it wasn’t Mayhem in that spot it would be something else.

Sorry, forgot my smiley face (updated my post).

This is a bit of an inside joke I have with my wife.  A few years ago I gave up the idea to collect all the cards because they were getting expensive and hard to cofllect.  At first, I was a bit frustrated, but I am better now.  It was just my OCD nature getting the best of me.

The inside joke is:  Rob keeps changing cards (new cards, AB versions of new cards and updated versions of old ones) to keep us OCD collecters "frustrated and broke."

Keep up the good work.

Vj
I have been collecting and playing for 10+ years, the AB and nats 1st place SoGs are the only cards I don't curently have. It is a huge investment that my wife is not thrilled about.
Title: Re: Two Mayhems in one pack!?!? Pics inside!
Post by: Bobbert on May 04, 2018, 11:39:05 AM
Second, if you receive a foil Mayhem in a Fall of Man pack it's only because we missed it.  We are pulling the TeP version Mayhem from the mix before they go into the packs. I.E. only 59 TeP cards (not 60) are in the Fall of Man mix.

Does this mean the thread title is inaccurate, then? Will the only Mayhems in FoM packs be LR?
Title: Re: Two Mayhems in one pack!?!? Pics inside!
Post by: NathanW on May 04, 2018, 12:00:16 PM
Second, if you receive a foil Mayhem in a Fall of Man pack it's only because we missed it.  We are pulling the TeP version Mayhem from the mix before they go into the packs. I.E. only 59 TeP cards (not 60) are in the Fall of Man mix.

Does this mean the thread title is inaccurate, then? Will the only Mayhems in FoM packs be LR?

there are 3 mayhems, 1: the original Mayhem that that will only be in 1/30 of the already completed old portion of the FoM packs, 2: the reprinted Mayhem that will be put in the rest of the old portion of the FoM packs and 3: the LR Mayhem that will be included in the new portion of FoM packs.

EDIT: nvm only the LR and reprinted Mayhems will be in the FoM packs.
Title: Re: Two Mayhems in one pack!?!? Pics inside!
Post by: The Guardian on May 04, 2018, 12:19:30 PM
Second, if you receive a foil Mayhem in a Fall of Man pack it's only because we missed it.  We are pulling the TeP version Mayhem from the mix before they go into the packs. I.E. only 59 TeP cards (not 60) are in the Fall of Man mix.

Does this mean the thread title is inaccurate, then? Will the only Mayhems in FoM packs be LR?

It does appear that way... oh well, it was a fun thought  ;D

there are 3 mayhems, 1: the original Mayhem that that will only be in 1/30 of the already completed old portion of the FoM packs, 2: the reprinted Mayhem that will be put in the rest of the old portion of the FoM packs and 3: the LR Mayhem that will be included in the new portion of FoM packs.

I believe Rob was referring the already packaged TexP packs, not the "old card" portion of the FoM packs.

So there will only be 1 way to get each version of Mayhem: foil version in TexP packs, replacement version through mail-in program and LR version in FoM packs.  8)
Title: Re: Two Mayhems in one pack!?!? Pics inside!
Post by: NathanW on May 04, 2018, 12:36:09 PM
I believe Rob was referring the already packaged TexP packs, not the "old card" portion of the FoM packs.

Ah yes, missed the TeP pack part in the beginning there.
Title: Re: Two Mayhems in one pack!?!? Pics inside!
Post by: VJ on May 04, 2018, 07:50:56 PM
I have been collecting and playing for 10+ years, the AB and nats 1st place SoGs are the only cards I don't curently have. It is a huge investment that my wife is not thrilled about.

I understand completely.  I have been collecting cards since Patriarchs was released.  Over time as my collection increased my wife inquired when I was going to stop collecting.  I told her I was going to stop when I reached 25,000 cards. That was some time ago because now my collection is over 55,000 cards.

My wife and I tried playing the game some years ago with the old E&F starters.  We got very confused, created many of our own "house rules" to end battles, and just finally gave up.

Concerning my collection - I am missing the 4 promos from last year, the winner cards from the 16 and 17 Nats, and the CoW AB The Second Coming and Nimrod, the Mighty.  Also, all of the Revelation of John AB cards.  That is, if you do not count the alternate versions of Print on Demand cards (which I'm not sure if any are released yet).

VJ
 
Title: Re: Two Mayhems in one pack!?!? Pics inside!
Post by: redemption collector 777 on May 04, 2018, 11:32:53 PM
So will we have the foil Mayhem in the packs or are we going to have the updated version. And it's pretty awesome to have a chance to get two in the same pack?

My understanding is that Rob will be putting random TexP cards in the FoM packs so you could potentially get the foil Mayhem and the Legacy Rare Mayhem...imagine being in a booster draft and you get passed a TexP Mayhem... ;D

First, the replacement cards for Mayhem and Children of the Light have arrived.  Those that want to take advantage of my replacement offer can start mailing in their cards.

Second, if you receive a foil Mayhem in a Fall of Man pack it's only because we missed it.  We are pulling the TeP version Mayhem from the mix before they go into the packs. I.E. only 59 TeP cards (not 60) are in the Fall of Man mix.

Third, for TeP packs that we have already assembled, there should still be 1 Mayhem in every 30 packs.  We are not going to open packs already assembled to pull them out.


How long will the replacement program last until??

I and maybe along with my other playgroup members in Canada probably would like to get replacement cards but not sure how we are going to buy return postage...

any ideas???   Would I have to go to a post office in the United States??
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