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So , I was attacked with Jacob, and COTH. (this was in multiplayer) "So , I said  does anyone have anything to help me, if not He wins."    So, My other opponent had the gates of hell out. I blocked with Gomer, TxP. He used The gates of hell and kept discarding the bottom card of his deck , so then I could band to his Evil Charactars. So, could he use the gates of hell, even though he was not part of this battle?

No, he can't

http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=22146.new;boardseen#new

read all. This makes me mad.

Evidently the PTB have discussed it and decided that you cannot add an EC to an Opponents side of the battle, only to your side of the battle

I still haven't been PM'd a link to that discussion, so in my mind this case isn't closed quite yet.

maybe its a figment of tims imagination.

I hope it is ruled you can add the demon to battle. I am always in favor of special abilites working as they are worded on the card.

Regardless of the ruling, Gates of  @#!*%  will still work exactly as written, it's just that a rule might be enacted to restrict how it can be used. Even though a converted Gomer still says on the card that she can band with any male EC, a game rule restricts her from doing so.

Wait...What?  Gomer cant band to any Male EC because of a game rule?  what game rule?

To use Gates of Hell to produce more ECs to band to is both legal and clever.

As long as GoH is used before Gomer is used to block, she can band to any male ECs in territory at the moment she enters battle.  After she has entered battle, you cannot go back and use the ability later.

Yeah, I thinbk the contention here is whether they can d/c Gates to add an EC to a battle they are not personally involved in.

And I think the contention is exactly what the poster claimed:

He used The gates of hell and kept discarding the bottom card of his deck , so then I could band to his Evil Charactars.

I'm confused, my post almost exactly mirrors something you said yourself earlier in this thread, and you're telling me that's not what this is about.

Quote from: crustpope on July 13, 2010, 10:28:54 AM

Yeah, I thinbk the contention here is whether they can d/c Gates to add an EC to a battle they are not personally involved in.

And I think the contention is exactly what the poster claimed:

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He used The gates of  @#!*%  and kept discarding the bottom card of his deck , so then I could band to his Evil Charactars.

I'm confused, my post almost exactly mirrors something you said yourself earlier in this thread, and you're telling me that's not what this is about.

For clarification purposes, here is how I see the conversation as it has developed.
First claim was as you mentioned.  Then that one kid liked a discusion thread on whether you could d/c Gates to add an EC to battle. (which I ruled you could ath this tournament)  Since I remember ruling on that specific issue more than once at this tournament, I assumed that this was one of those situations.  In fact I am pretty sure I did rule on this very disputre although I cannto remember the exact specifics.

Since they linked the other thread, that said to me that it was more than a simple banding issue and the only other way to get an EC into battle other than gomer banding to it would be to d/c Gates of hell.

Im just sayin that is how I have seent he conversation develop.  I have been tryign to adress BOTH aspects of the issue.

you know, to be inclusive and cover all the bases.