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Re: The Persecuted Church - New Set Spoilers!
« Reply #200 on: July 13, 2015, 03:15:09 PM »
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EDIT: Nevermind, I didn't see when you use it with Job they can underdeck any card. That's actually pretty useless because they can just underdeck all of their lost souls.

So we just need RDT or Isildur to come up with an insane combo that makes their opponent use Job and this enhancement!  :o
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Re: The Persecuted Church - New Set Spoilers!
« Reply #201 on: July 13, 2015, 03:19:49 PM »
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EDIT: Nevermind, I didn't see when you use it with Job they can underdeck any card. That's actually pretty useless because they can just underdeck all of their lost souls.

That's a...really good point...is it supposed to read that way?
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Re: The Persecuted Church - New Set Spoilers!
« Reply #202 on: July 13, 2015, 03:33:28 PM »
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EDIT: Nevermind, I didn't see when you use it with Job they can underdeck any card. That's actually pretty useless because they can just underdeck all of their lost souls.

So we just need RDT or Isildur to come up with an insane combo that makes their opponent use Job and this enhancement!  :o

Oh, that's easy. Just use Sent to Server to place Endurance of Job on Job, then use Dissuading Speech, Lies, or Sarah's Jealousy to choose Job as the rescuer.
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Re: The Persecuted Church - New Set Spoilers!
« Reply #203 on: July 13, 2015, 03:47:02 PM »
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EDIT: Nevermind, I didn't see when you use it with Job they can underdeck any card. That's actually pretty useless because they can just underdeck all of their lost souls.

That's a...really good point...is it supposed to read that way?

It's not.  I can say that this card was worked over many, many times to get the wording to be what we meant it to be, and I believe the second-to-last version did not specify hand and/or territory (to indicate that you used the same targeting as the first component).  This got clarified, and now it is kind of broken as a result.  I imagine this will be getting an errata/clarification, as it is supposed to have the exact same targeting for each component (evil cards in hand and/or territory), but we'll have to confer on that :)

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Re: The Persecuted Church - New Set Spoilers!
« Reply #204 on: July 13, 2015, 04:16:37 PM »
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EDIT: Nevermind, I didn't see when you use it with Job they can underdeck any card. That's actually pretty useless because they can just underdeck all of their lost souls.

That's a...really good point...is it supposed to read that way?

It's not.  I can say that this card was worked over many, many times to get the wording to be what we meant it to be, and I believe the second-to-last version did not specify hand and/or territory (to indicate that you used the same targeting as the first component).  This got clarified, and now it is kind of broken as a result.  I imagine this will be getting an errata/clarification, as it is supposed to have the exact same targeting for each component (evil cards in hand and/or territory), but we'll have to confer on that :)

yeah i read it initially as evil cards/ evil cards for both parts but i can see where someone would try to construe it to be lost souls to work in their favor with it's current wording haha

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Re: The Persecuted Church - New Set Spoilers!
« Reply #205 on: July 13, 2015, 04:20:09 PM »
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James, Leader at Jerusalem is going to be insane with the old Rhoda.
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Re: The Persecuted Church - New Set Spoilers!
« Reply #206 on: July 13, 2015, 10:13:05 PM »
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It's not a matter of trying to construe, it's what the card actually says. It'd be an easier argument to make that it doesn't need at least clarification if not errata if Maltese Viper weren't in the same set.
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Re: The Persecuted Church - New Set Spoilers!
« Reply #207 on: July 14, 2015, 06:57:04 AM »
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I can already see which of these new souls would go best in my decks. kinda wish the tempted artwork was on a " Can only be rescued by a lone warrior class hero" lost soul cause that would be a ability that hinders lots of deck,although the N.T. decks won't be hindered too much with the spiritual warriors coming out in the new set.

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Re: The Persecuted Church - New Set Spoilers!
« Reply #208 on: July 14, 2015, 09:25:27 AM »
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Revealed today are some very interesting Lost Souls.


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« Reply #209 on: July 14, 2015, 01:47:53 PM »
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Apologies for the double post, but I wanted to point out that I've reorganized the first post of this thread.

It now lists the spoiled new cards in order by card number (for those I've been able to read it on, the small half-previews are really blurry in the corner, lol). The rarity is still in parenthesis after, and the card number is now before the card name and also colored based on rarity (black text is common, red text is rare, green text is ultra rare) for easy reference.

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Re: The Persecuted Church - New Set Spoilers!
« Reply #210 on: July 14, 2015, 01:54:26 PM »
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Let's name them! The girl next door, predator, reacher

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« Reply #211 on: July 14, 2015, 01:56:07 PM »
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Let's name them! The girl next door, predator, reacher
They actually already have names, lol. You can check out the LoR article or the first post of this thread to find out their official nicknames.

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Re: The Persecuted Church - New Set Spoilers!
« Reply #212 on: July 14, 2015, 01:56:54 PM »
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It now lists the spoiled new cards in order by card number (for those I've been able to read it on, the small half-previews are really blurry in the corner, lol). The rarity is still in parenthesis after, and the card number is now before the card name and also colored based on rarity (black text is common, red text is rare, green text is ultra rare) for easy reference.

Awesome! Let me help with those card numbers.

37-Paul's Nephew
16-Philip's Daughters
15-Agabus
6-Jerusalem
61-Uproar in Jerusalem
72-Revolt
78-Centurion at Jerusalem
80-Roman Citizenship
73-Emperor Claudius
49-Of One Mind
3-Alexandrian Ship
60-Stormy Seas
44-Snake into the Fire
48-Healings in Malta
81-Pestering Spirit
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Re: The Persecuted Church - New Set Spoilers!
« Reply #213 on: July 14, 2015, 02:41:30 PM »
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Thanks Gabe!

With that list, I've updated the first post with every card we've gotten even a half-image preview of with their numbers.

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Re: The Persecuted Church - New Set Spoilers!
« Reply #214 on: July 15, 2015, 08:56:29 AM »
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I would've figured that Jude and James would band since they were brothers.

 I think the underdeck "insert book" enhancement ability is a bit useless unless you play with  50 card deck or have ways to topdeck the enhancement, otherwise you will probably not use that enhancement again. The CTB ability is good and could redeemed a soul unless your opponent martyrs him or does a grapes of wrath to shuffle them into your deck, those only giving Jude a recur ability.

The enhancements I like, though I see them being more useful than the actual character.
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Re: The Persecuted Church - New Set Spoilers!
« Reply #215 on: July 15, 2015, 09:12:46 AM »
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Jude the dude gets a reveal in today's Land of Redemption article.


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Re: The Persecuted Church - New Set Spoilers!
« Reply #216 on: July 15, 2015, 09:14:32 AM »
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If you are using underdecking combos for good cards, you just have to use Silas to get them back faster.  These mini-themes are also very good for either extremely fast or extremely sturdy decks, where being able to recur them will give you late-game power once you draw out.  That's not even to mention the T2 potential for recurring and then shuffling or topdecking with Silas.

The CTB is going to be incredibly strong, but just like all CTB abilities it has a few weak points (which is very good for the game).

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Re: The Persecuted Church - New Set Spoilers!
« Reply #217 on: July 15, 2015, 11:33:59 AM »
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Also using a Messenger of Satan's draw from bottom of deck is very handy with underdecking cards. Depending on the draw number and how you've played your underdeck you could get back a good "book" battle winner and an evil (Invoking Terror), and such. I like it for sure.
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Re: The Persecuted Church - New Set Spoilers!
« Reply #218 on: July 15, 2015, 12:00:29 PM »
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Revealed today are some very interesting Lost Souls.


I've spent a few years now looking for the revealer lost soul. A few days ago I finally got it only to see the preview of this lost soul.

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« Reply #219 on: July 15, 2015, 01:19:55 PM »
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Jude the dude gets a reveal in today's Land of Redemption article.



yayy!! more useful defensive/offensive toss cards!! :) really happy to see this!

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Re: The Persecuted Church - New Set Spoilers!
« Reply #220 on: July 15, 2015, 01:51:57 PM »
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Silias's ability... do you get to choose to topdeck up to X or if you choose to use his ability you have to topdeck X?
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Re: The Persecuted Church - New Set Spoilers!
« Reply #221 on: July 15, 2015, 02:03:04 PM »
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Silias's ability... do you get to choose to topdeck up to X or if you choose to use his ability you have to topdeck X?

You may topdeck.  If you choose to, you topdeck up to X (your choice of value up to a maximum of X).

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« Reply #222 on: July 15, 2015, 03:32:11 PM »
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Shame Kirk, myself and some of the old players who used to make twonky deck aren't active anymore. I have a feeling someone could make a pretty mean deck out of all these topdeck your own deck cards (hint hint).
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Re: The Persecuted Church - New Set Spoilers!
« Reply #223 on: July 16, 2015, 09:45:54 AM »
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Today's preview shows off some new Kings of Israel support.


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« Reply #224 on: July 16, 2015, 03:01:27 PM »
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Today's preview shows off some new Kings of Israel support.



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