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« Reply #75 on: June 25, 2015, 03:21:36 PM »
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I am curious, for Porcius, if we ever decided upon a default for not being able to complete a SA. For instance, if my opponent says that he has no enhancements in hand, are they required to reveal their hand to prove it?
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« Reply #76 on: June 25, 2015, 03:32:38 PM »
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I think the consensus was that they don't have to reveal but you can call a judge if you are uncertain.

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Re: The Persecuted Church - New Set Spoilers!
« Reply #77 on: June 25, 2015, 03:48:47 PM »
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I am curious, for Porcius, if we ever decided upon a default for not being able to complete a SA. For instance, if my opponent says that he has no enhancements in hand, are they required to reveal their hand to prove it?

I think the consensus was that they don't have to reveal but you can call a judge if you are uncertain.

Browarod is correct about the current rule. We're talking about making the "I Am Holy" rule the norm. In fact it's an agenda item for our group call tonight. If we make an official change we will announce it effective after Nats.
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« Reply #78 on: June 25, 2015, 03:58:59 PM »
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We're talking about making the "I Am Holy" rule the norm. In fact it's an agenda item for our group call tonight. If we make an official change we will announce it effective after Nats.

Fair enough. Thanks for the update!  ;D
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« Reply #79 on: June 25, 2015, 04:01:29 PM »
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« Reply #80 on: June 26, 2015, 07:11:38 AM »
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Not really wowed by Festus, his first strike is not that useful really, and the enhancement hand over is only good if the opponent is playing with the same offense/defense brigade

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« Reply #81 on: June 26, 2015, 07:19:21 AM »
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..., and the enhancement hand over is only good if the opponent is playing with the same offense/defense brigade

I think the point was to get one of their battle-winners out of their hand.
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« Reply #82 on: June 26, 2015, 07:46:36 AM »
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..., and the enhancement hand over is only good if the opponent is playing with the same offense/defense brigade

I think the point was to get one of their battle-winners out of their hand.

Precisely.  Unless you can prevent him, you are going to lose an enhancement at least temporarily.  Do you have the resources to do that and still win the battle?  In most cases, you probably do...but what if the deck is using Roman hand control?  Will you still have enough enhancements to pay the cost and win the battle?

It adds a very interesting wrinkle to Romans and an interesting interaction we look forward to seeing in action.

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Re: The Persecuted Church - New Set Spoilers!
« Reply #83 on: June 26, 2015, 10:08:31 AM »
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Another full preview in today's article! I didn't find any mini previews (even with my tabbing technique) but if I missed one please feel free to point it out. :P



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« Reply #84 on: June 26, 2015, 12:02:40 PM »
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Precisely.  Unless you can prevent him, you are going to lose an enhancement at least temporarily.  Do you have the resources to do that and still win the battle?  In most cases, you probably do...but what if the deck is using Roman hand control?  Will you still have enough enhancements to pay the cost and win the battle?

It adds a very interesting wrinkle to Romans and an interesting interaction we look forward to seeing in action.

It's basically "Opponent must discard an enhancement from hand", except better, because you might be able to use it. 

Don't forget, Rome allows Emperors to play enhancements of other brigades, with some limitations (Orange and OT excluded maybe?).  And I can see potential to abuse a converted Festus via sidebattles/Darius Decree in T2. 
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« Reply #85 on: June 26, 2015, 12:16:08 PM »
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Also, converted Festus with Peace... :o
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« Reply #86 on: June 26, 2015, 12:55:01 PM »
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Another full preview in today's article! I didn't find any mini previews (even with my tabbing technique) but if I missed one please feel free to point it out. :P



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« Reply #87 on: June 26, 2015, 01:05:59 PM »
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In a playtest game I was using a Roman hand control deck and an offense that included Paul. Festus won a battle when my opponent had to give me his only good enhancement in his 4 card hand (Bravery of David), which was then used in my next turn rescue with Paul to win the battle.  8)
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« Reply #88 on: June 26, 2015, 01:14:05 PM »
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In one play test battle I was given a Roman's Destroy Jerusalem by Festus' ability. At the time, James, Leader in Jerusalem's ability protected all of the Heroes I had in my territory, making that a very one sided play. 8)
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« Reply #89 on: June 26, 2015, 01:24:04 PM »
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In a playtest game...
In one play test battle...

Wait...did I miss something?  Were we supposed to test these cards?  :o

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« Reply #90 on: June 26, 2015, 01:40:55 PM »
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Darn it Gabe, I knew we forgot to tell Dayne something...  :doh:
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« Reply #91 on: June 26, 2015, 02:36:05 PM »
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I figured the term "playtester" was self-explanatory.  ;)
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« Reply #92 on: June 26, 2015, 02:39:47 PM »
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I figured the term "playtester" was self-explanatory.  ;)

If you haven't noticed, Dayne gets a little hung up when a term isn't clearly defined in the REG...  :o
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« Reply #93 on: June 26, 2015, 03:04:30 PM »
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I figured the term "playtester" was self-explanatory.  ;)

If you haven't noticed, Dayne gets a little hung up when a term isn't clearly defined in the REG...  :o

Look, if you're going to expect there to be consistency regarding the application of duties for individuals, then you have to define the identifier you use in the REG!  Limiting it to obscure references on the boards is an improper and contrary method of communicating these decisions, and then you end up with confusion and inconsistent applications as a result!

Also, I had thought that it was known that my prodigious knowledge base and predictive capabilities show that I can accurately assess the outcomes of playtesting anyway, and thus it was not necessary for me to actually 'test' the cards outside of my mindscape.


So...are we adding it to the REG then?

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Re: The Persecuted Church - New Set Spoilers!
« Reply #94 on: June 27, 2015, 11:17:44 AM »
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Woot woot for Julius!

I don't like that he is evil, as he was Paul's friend. But I guess we don't know that he converted, so he would need to be evil...
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« Reply #95 on: June 27, 2015, 12:37:06 PM »
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Woot woot for Julius!

I don't like that he is evil, as he was Paul's friend. But I guess we don't know that he converted, so he would need to be evil...

He wasn't really Paul's friend, he was his jailer.  That he wasn't cruel to him was a good thing, but he was only doing his job and trying to get it done right (which is why he ignored Paul the first time, taking the word of seasoned sailors, but once he saw that Paul could predict things he listened to what he had to say).

We also don't have any evidence of any long-lasting effect for him or any conversion, though of course we would hope that he thought about what happened with Paul and maybe that contributed to a change later.

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« Reply #96 on: June 27, 2015, 12:44:22 PM »
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And, even converted, he still has a pretty sweet ability.
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« Reply #97 on: June 27, 2015, 05:01:26 PM »
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Given he's being talked about, here's Julius! (and a couple mini previews)



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« Reply #98 on: June 27, 2015, 05:08:42 PM »
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Most likely a "If used by a Roman ... If used by a Herod..." special ability.

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« Reply #99 on: June 27, 2015, 05:12:16 PM »
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Most likely a "If used by a Roman ... If used by an Herod Egyptian..." special ability.
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