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This is a gameplay only.

     1:Lack of a cost to play cards:Who in the world wants to wait seven turns to play a 4/4?(Sorry for getting on MTG a bit!)
      2:The Inhitive syastem is a wonderus work of intelligince in the games department.
       3:The draw mechanic is great as well.
       4:The discard to 8 rule is also a balancer.
       5:The battles.

This is a gameplay only.

     1:Lack of a cost to play cards:Who in the world wants to wait seven turns to play a 4/4?(Sorry for getting on MTG a bit!)
      2:The Inhitive syastem is a wonderus work of intelligince in the games department.
       3:The draw mechanic is great as well.
       4:The discard to 8 rule is also a balancer.
       5:The battles.

Post nazi time
1. Not to nitpick but in MTG a 4/4 is huge
2. 0_0
3. no complaints there
4. same
5. Yes I looove not being able to block because my opponent uses garden tomb and set all my ECs aside for seven turns. That's great fun 

yeah in mtg should IMO have more lp.

Lulwot

Quote from: JSB23 on July 02, 2010, 02:43:12 PM

5. Yes I looove not being able to block because my opponent uses garden tomb and set all my ECs aside for seven turns. That's great fun  

And Magic is soo much better.  They don't have anything called swamp-walk, island-walk, or mountain-walk, right?

Or flying...

Quote from: JSB23 on July 02, 2010, 02:43:12 PM

5. Yes I looove not being able to block because my opponent uses garden tomb and set all my ECs aside for seven turns. That's great fun  

And Magic is soo much better.  They don't have anything called swamp-walk, island-walk, or mountain-walk, right?

True... but all of those characters are lame sauce and wont kill your opponent very fast. Also the chances of you playing against mono deck with that one color is pretty slim at a tourney since there are what 5? Colors?

Time to rant some more...

     1:Lack of a cost to play cards:Who in the world wants to wait seven turns to play a 4/4?(Sorry for getting on MTG a bit!)
      2:The Inhitive syastem is a wonderus work of intelligince in the games department.
       3:The draw mechanic is great as well.
       4:The discard to 8 rule is also a balancer.
       5:The battles.

1. This is why Redemption is sometimes FAR more chaotic then other games such as Magic or Lotr where there is the balance of playing cards at a cost.
2. This initiative system is nothing new and some games use it far better because other games do not have interrupt the battle or CBN cards.
3. The Draw mechanic is good to a certain extent the draw three yes that is great but... The way drawing cards can be exploited in Redemption can get ridiculous at times.
4. The discard to 8 is used in many games so that is nothing new.
5. The battles are very fun and fast paced but sometimes... They lose the old school flair that they used to have. Now with all of these CBN cards the game just isnt as fun as it was in the Old days when there could be like 20 cards played in battle.

Now im done with my rant.... Dont worry I still love Redemption

The Draw 3 is basically needed in redemption because of how many card you need, the bigger problem is that its so easy to draw or search your deck that some think there is too much draw capabilities in the game.  Whereas in yugioh, for example, its much harder to draw cards but you don't need as many.

Most card games have a hand limit (at least the ones I know).

Most of these either are in other card games or wouldn't make sense in other games.  For example initiative wouldn't make sense in yugioh, but its the only way redemption works.  The lack of cost has both advantages and disadvantages, yes to a redemption player strange that you have to pay costs to play cards, but in MTG the cost system is part of the basis of the game and one of the reasons why it is still doing well today, it balances cards, so rather than just making cards that are better (like adding CBN to search) when they make cards with better abilities they add more to the cost so its not just better.

Quote from: JSB23 on July 02, 2010, 02:43:12 PM

5. Yes I looove not being able to block because my opponent uses garden tomb and set all my ECs aside for seven turns. That's great fun  

And Magic is soo much better.  They don't have anything called swamp-walk, island-walk, or mountain-walk, right?

I've never played magic so I wouldn't know

If you have ever played with some pro expanded players the game is GG very fast because of all of the op'd combos.

Reason #6!

It says quite a bit about these forums that we can't even agree on why we love Redemption.  I know internet forums are designed for arguing, but C'mon!

Also, before anyone else does:

It says quite a bit about these forums that we can't even agree on why we love Redemption.  I know internet forums are designed for arguing, but C'mon!

No they're not.

It says quite a bit about these forums that we can't even agree on why we love Redemption.  I know internet forums are designed for arguing, but C'mon!

No they're not.
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Yes they are, that and trolling

ok then...

I guess I should say why I love redemption just so that no one else thinks I am trying to bash the game, because I'm not.

I have had epic battles where it was all about mass numbers and such, that is with up to at the very least FooF, I was defending a genesis offense with the orange King of Tyrus, I think I barely won by the numbers.  Some of my favorite EPIC battles were with newer cards, you don't have to go back to negate wars to have them.

I do like the game design, especially the Rock, Paper, Scissors mechanic.

I love that unlike other card games I know, I don't have to buy singles to stay competitive or put probably hundreds or even thousands of dollars into it (yes I'm talking about you Yugioh)

I love the friends and how I can lose in an epic game with someone I've never met before and then after the game talk about how much we liked each others decks afterwards.  Forcing my opponents KoT to block with a 1/1 character and then proceeding to win the battle was one of my more memorable moves at Nationals in Ohio a few years back.

I won't give up playing this game as long as I enjoy it, even though I have some complaints (many of which are too late to change without rebooting the entire game) I still love the game