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What does it mean to "Rip a plot"?
« on: January 29, 2014, 01:09:40 AM »
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Hi there,
So, I've known and liked Redemption for a while now, but I don't know anyone else who plays it, so I don't have much experience at all. I've seen the term "I ripped a plot", and I'd like to know what that means. Thanks for your patience with a noob :P

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Re: What does it mean to "Rip a plot"?
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2014, 01:14:10 AM »
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lol its the one card in the game you literally have to rip in half to use it
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Re: What does it mean to "Rip a plot"?
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2014, 01:25:31 AM »
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It is an evil brown brigade enhancement called "Haman's Plot" from the Patriarchs card set.

 The Special ability on it says:  Holder may discard any three characters in play or in a set-aside area.  But then. holder must tear this card in half. Cannot be interrupted , prevented or negated. 
           
 Usually when someone uses it at a tournament , they have to rip it in half , so they can not use it again in the tournament because it was the price you had to pay for using it.

It allowed you to discard any 3 (hero or Evil characters) you wanted and it is a Can not be negated special ability.
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Re: What does it mean to "Rip a plot"?
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2014, 01:27:51 AM »
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Wow.... That's..er..Some card. I probably wouldn't use it because I'd have a hard time ripping it in half. It's a perfectly good card :P
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Re: What does it mean to "Rip a plot"?
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2014, 03:31:19 AM »
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Don't listen to these guys, its the digestive flatulence caused by the chemical reaction of eating too many pretzel M&M's and Mountain Dew at a Redemption tournament.
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Re: What does it mean to "Rip a plot"?
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2014, 10:36:20 AM »
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Wow.... That's..er..Some card. I probably wouldn't use it because I'd have a hard time ripping it in half. It's a perfectly good card :P
If you do decide to use it, put it in a 51 card deck so you won't be disqualified in a tournament. Also, Haman's Gallows also allows that card to be removed from the game when played instead of ripped in half.
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Re: What does it mean to "Rip a plot"?
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2014, 12:15:56 PM »
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In most friendly (i.e., non-tournament games) people don't force you to rip the card. (You would want to verify this with your opponent first, however.)

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Re: What does it mean to "Rip a plot"?
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2014, 12:28:41 PM »
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In most friendly (i.e., non-tournament games) people don't force you to rip the card. (You would want to verify this with your opponent first, however.)

In most friendly (i.e., non-tournament games) you probably shouldn't be playing with the card at all. Using it on your opponent is the opposite of friendly... ;)
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Re: What does it mean to "Rip a plot"?
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2014, 03:41:48 PM »
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In most friendly (i.e., non-tournament games) people don't force you to rip the card. (You would want to verify this with your opponent first, however.)

In most friendly (i.e., non-tournament games) you probably shouldn't be playing with the card at all. Using it on your opponent is the opposite of friendly... ;)
Thomas used to make me remove it from the evening, whenever I played it. ;)

I suppose I should mention my preferred errata to HP.

Haman's Plot (MJB errata):  Holder may discard any three characters in play or in a set-aside area.  But then. holder must give this card to his opponent for keepsies. Cannot be interrupted , prevented or negated. 

Boom! Each plot would be immediately limited to one use per event, and giving a gift to another player is more funner and fellowshipper than ripping a card will ever be.

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Re: What does it mean to "Rip a plot"?
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2014, 05:03:31 PM »
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Boom! Each plot would be immediately limited to one use per event, and giving a gift to another player is more funner and fellowshipper than ripping a card will ever be.

The one downside would of course be that you wouldn't get the tournament wide announcement of the impending ripping of the plot.
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Re: What does it mean to "Rip a plot"?
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2014, 05:34:21 PM »
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Boom! Each plot would be immediately limited to one use per event, and giving a gift to another player is more funner and fellowshipper than ripping a card will ever be.

The one downside would of course be that you wouldn't get the tournament wide announcement of the impending ripping of the plot.

As someone who has yet to rip one, I do enjoy this more than I should  ;D

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Re: What does it mean to "Rip a plot"?
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2014, 09:02:18 PM »
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The best is when you attack an opponent with Daniel and they play a "gallowed" plot thinking they just remove it. :maul:.

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Re: What does it mean to "Rip a plot"?
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2014, 11:35:03 PM »
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Boom! Each plot would be immediately limited to one use per event, and giving a gift to another player is more funner and fellowshipper than ripping a card will ever be.

The one downside would of course be that you wouldn't get the tournament wide announcement of the impending ripping of the plot.

Whenever this happens, I consider it to be one the best parts of the tournaments.
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Re: What does it mean to "Rip a plot"?
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2014, 07:31:27 AM »
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Boom! Each plot would be immediately limited to one use per event, and giving a gift to another player is more funner and fellowshipper than ripping a card will ever be.

The one downside would of course be that you wouldn't get the tournament wide announcement of the impending ripping of the plot.
Yeah--those traditions are kinda fun. I know how much everyone appreciates hearing my New Beginnings song right before I play an ANB.

What if just prior to handing the plot over we made the player stand up and announce loudly, "Today is <insert possessive form of opponent's name here> birthday."

The best is when you attack an opponent with Daniel and they play a "gallowed" plot thinking they just remove it. :maul:.
That's pretty good, Hobbit, but I'm not sure it is the *best*.

The best is when you use Stealing Egypt's Wealth to take you opponent's Haman's Plot and then rip it yourself. :maul:^2
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Re: What does it mean to "Rip a plot"?
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2014, 06:04:54 PM »
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Boom! Each plot would be immediately limited to one use per event, and giving a gift to another player is more funner and fellowshipper than ripping a card will ever be.

The one downside would of course be that you wouldn't get the tournament wide announcement of the impending ripping of the plot.
Yeah--those traditions are kinda fun. I know how much everyone appreciates hearing my New Beginnings song right before I play an ANB.

What if just prior to handing the plot over we made the player stand up and announce loudly, "Today is <insert possessive form of opponent's name here> birthday."

The best is when you attack an opponent with Daniel and they play a "gallowed" plot thinking they just remove it. :maul:.
That's pretty good, Hobbit, but I'm not sure it is the *best*.

The best is when you use Stealing Egypt's Wealth to take you opponent's Haman's Plot and then rip it yourself. :maul:^2

Wouldn't it be better just to mark the card so you can sell it to someone for a souvenir?
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Re: What does it mean to "Rip a plot"?
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2014, 06:45:34 PM »
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Not if you need to play it in battle.

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Re: What does it mean to "Rip a plot"?
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2014, 06:54:36 PM »
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Not if you need to play it in battle.
I was meaning like if you were at nats, and you used the card, instead of ripping the card, just sharpie DNA on it (do not allow) or sign it and sell it to someone for a dollar. It keeps the card out of the trash for a while, and if you have 3 signatures of 3 winners, might be worth something to a collector
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Re: What does it mean to "Rip a plot"?
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2014, 11:33:58 PM »
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You have to rip it if you play it.There are no exceptions.

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Re: What does it mean to "Rip a plot"?
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2014, 11:44:16 PM »
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You don't have to rip it if you play it for numbers. Name on name bonus with Haman whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.
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Re: What does it mean to "Rip a plot"?
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2014, 11:45:25 PM »
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You have to rip it if you play it.There are no exceptions.
Haman's Gallows allows Haman's Plot to be removed from the game instead of being ripped.
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Re: What does it mean to "Rip a plot"?
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2014, 11:59:09 PM »
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Not if you need to play it in battle.
I was meaning like if you were at nats, and you used the card, instead of ripping the card, just sharpie DNA on it (do not allow) or sign it and sell it to someone for a dollar. It keeps the card out of the trash for a while, and if you have 3 signatures of 3 winners, might be worth something to a collector
Most people who I see rip plots on a semi-regular basis keep the remains as souvenirs for themselves.

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Re: What does it mean to "Rip a plot"?
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2014, 09:57:09 AM »
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This is why some people stockpile Haman's Plots... :P

 


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