Author Topic: Redemption Hall of Fame voting for 2009 (Read 48377 times)

egilkinc · « **Reply #100 on:** December 31, 2009, 09:16:37 AM »

Quote from: EmJayBee83 on December 23, 2009, 12:32:44 AM

If you limit membership to four starters and then two per year thereafter, we won't clear out the current list until 2014

This is also a good point. Perhaps, we should elect 4 per year. The problem is that Redemption has been going for 15 years, and there's probably only about 30 people total that the majority would agree deserve to be in a HoF. If we vote in too many each year, then we will reach a point in the future where the people voted in might not match up with the earlier inductees.

hey,
My systematic approach demands I attempt to make this more complicated than it should be ;-)
Maybe the number of inductions from each category should be a tiered percentage of the number of nominations. For instance, it could be 1/4 of the number of nominations rounded up. 1-5=1, 6-9=2, 10-13=3, etc...
L8er,
Gil

crustpope · « **Reply #101 on:** December 31, 2009, 09:20:21 AM »

I also agree that this first year should be special and that probably 12-16 people should be inducted with an emphasis on those in years past. After that the HOF should be limited to no more than 2 a year (one in each category) I dont have a problem with people still playing and being in the HOF, but our cocmmunity is not big enough for multiple years of 4+ HOF inductees.

I also belive that we should do it like the Baseball HOF does it where you dont get in unless you get a certain % of the total vote. So some years we have 2,3 or 4 voted in and some years we have none.

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #102 on:** December 31, 2009, 10:14:17 AM »

Quote from: SirNobody on December 30, 2009, 07:03:21 PM

Keith Bartram (1999-2002) -

Thanks again Tim. These are so good that I'm linking the names on the 1st post to them. Please keep them coming, and if possible, a bit faster

Quote from: crustpope on December 31, 2009, 09:20:21 AM

this first year should be special and that probably 12-16 people should be inducted...After that the HOF should be limited to no more than 2 a year...you dont get in unless you get a certain % of the total vote.

These are some good points (from you and others who agree with you). My plan is to actually have the first 10 inductees by Nats 2010. I plan on having the vote on the first 4 inductees in January (representing 2009), then to have a nomination process during the spring, followed by another vote in the summer which will elect 6 more people (3 from each category).

Then in future years, we will probably limit it to 2 people (1 from each category), unless we decided to get all complicated for Gil

SirNobody · « **Reply #103 on:** December 31, 2009, 12:55:51 PM »

Hey,

Quote from: EmJayBee83 on December 23, 2009, 12:32:44 AM

If you limit membership to four starters and then two per year thereafter, we won't clear out the current list until 2014

I don't think that's a problem. Players have had about ten years to build up credentials to merit being in the hall of fame. It should take about ten years to get all of the deserving players in. I could see up to three players from each group plus Rob (who shouldn't be voted in in my opinion) in the first year, but anything more than that and anything more than one from each category per year will lead to us exhausting hall of fame candidates way too quickly.

Quote from: Prof Underwood on December 31, 2009, 10:14:17 AM

Please keep them coming, and if possible, a bit faster

I'd love to do them faster, but they take more time to write than I expected, and my time this week just seems like it's been disappearing. I've also got another project that I need to work on today (which I expect you'll like even more than these little bios). But I should get Ron Sias posted sometime today.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

soul seeker · « **Reply #104 on:** December 31, 2009, 02:09:00 PM »

Hey Tim,
I for one appreciate the articles and statistics. Being relatively new, I like to read about the players of the past. A part of me wish I had started the game sooner to see how the game evolved.

FWIW: If anything, you should be voted in for being Redemption's Semi-Official Historian (a Josephus of sorts

) I appreciate your work and statistics.

EmJayBee83 · « **Reply #105 on:** December 31, 2009, 05:27:19 PM »

Quote from: SirNobody on December 31, 2009, 12:55:51 PM

...Rob (who shouldn't be voted in in my opinion)...

What do you have against Rob?

I also second what soul seeker said immediately above me.

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #106 on:** December 31, 2009, 05:37:52 PM »

Hey,

I nominate Gil to write Tim's bio, seeing as he's known him forever.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #107 on:** January 04, 2010, 12:41:08 PM »

Since my dear brother has been mentioned several times in relation to his pioneering of the modern speed deck, I thought I would enlighten everyone to a brief history of the origins of the type.

The Alstads had been playing Redemption for a few years when we went to our first tournament in 2002, and met Mike Turnidge (The Quadfather). It was there we learned that a deck could win without defense, an entirely new concept to us. Maybe a year or so later, there was a contest on the EZBoard, hosted by a player who I cannot now remember. The idea was simple: construct a deck to find out how fast it could draw out. So Justin and I thought about some combos we could use, such as choosing an immune blocker, playing a horde of drawing cards, then Long Day, Stillness, repeat (there was no restriction on the same hero entering battle more than once back then). When we tested the deck with Justin using it and myself using a balanced offense and defense, Justin was successfully able to draw out in one turn, then go on to win the game. Thus we won the contest, and split the prize, since we had both come up with ideas.

Later, Justin realized that that type of deck probably wouldn't do so bad in general, since you would get your SoG/NJ/AotL faster than most people, and assuming you could ensure your opponent had LS's to rescue somehow (Hopper, Harvest Time, etc.) you could probably win before your opponent could stop you. We had already seen a huge offense with lots of heroes and battle winners win games, ala the Quadfather, now Justin was just adding the element of drawing your good cards as fast as you could. When he went on to win T1 MP with his deck, the type came to national prominence.

I do not know of any influence Josh Hey had on the process, but Justin knew him much better than I did, so it is certainly possible.

Sean · « **Reply #108 on:** January 04, 2010, 02:14:02 PM »

Quote from: Professoeralstad

Maybe a year or so later, there was a contest on the EZBoard, hosted by Sean. The idea was simple: construct a deck to find out how fast it could draw out.

Fixed.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #109 on:** January 04, 2010, 02:28:54 PM »

Ah right, it was you. You had your old board name then, but I actually do remember that. Well now you know (if you didn't already) that you played a significant role in the development of Speed as a Redemption archetype. Now the question is, does that make you proud or sad?

Gabe · « **Reply #110 on:** January 04, 2010, 02:59:54 PM »

I nominate Sean to the Hall of Fame based on his role in helping create the greatest archetype in Redemption history - Speed!

SirNobody · « **Reply #111 on:** January 04, 2010, 03:09:12 PM »

Hey,

I nominate Sean to the Hall of Fame based on his role in helping create the most evil archetype in Redemption history - Speed!

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #112 on:** January 04, 2010, 03:11:49 PM »

Quote from: BrianGabe on January 04, 2010, 02:59:54 PM

I nominate Sean

Quote from: SirNobody on January 04, 2010, 03:09:12 PM

I nominate Sean

I would still appreciate nominations to be sent by PM. And SirNobody, I'd appreciate a few more bios when you get the chance

Sean · « **Reply #113 on:** January 04, 2010, 04:37:30 PM »

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Well now you know (if you didn't already) that you played a significant role in the development of Speed as a Redemption archetype. Now the question is, does that make you proud or sad?

I knew, but I try to not help people remember.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #114 on:** January 04, 2010, 04:44:28 PM »

Quote from: Sean on January 04, 2010, 04:37:30 PM

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Well now you know (if you didn't already) that you played a significant role in the development of Speed as a Redemption archetype. Now the question is, does that make you proud or sad?
I knew, but I try to not help people remember.

Quote from: Sean on January 04, 2010, 02:14:02 PM

Quote from: Professoeralstad
Maybe a year or so later, there was a contest on the EZBoard, hosted by Sean. The idea was simple: construct a deck to find out how fast it could draw out.
Fixed.

If this is how you try to not help people remember, you're really bad at it.

crustpope · « **Reply #115 on:** January 04, 2010, 07:39:32 PM »

Prof, Is there an open nominaton process here? If so when will the nominations be closed? And when it is closed and we actually vote on the HOF, can we close this thread and start a new one where each person has a Bio written by someone else so that all the members of the board can see the contribiutions of some of the older pioneers of the game standing alongside those that may be more familiar.

Sean · « **Reply #116 on:** January 04, 2010, 07:44:31 PM »

Quote from: Professoralstad on January 04, 2010, 04:44:28 PM

Quote from: Sean on January 04, 2010, 04:37:30 PM
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Well now you know (if you didn't already) that you played a significant role in the development of Speed as a Redemption archetype. Now the question is, does that make you proud or sad?
I knew, but I try to not help people remember.

Quote from: Sean on January 04, 2010, 02:14:02 PM
Quote from: Professoeralstad
Maybe a year or so later, there was a contest on the EZBoard, hosted by Sean. The idea was simple: construct a deck to find out how fast it could draw out.
Fixed.
If this is how you try to not help people remember, you're really bad at it.

Good point.

Sean · « **Reply #117 on:** January 04, 2010, 07:47:59 PM »

Darcy Abbott

Not sure if I spelled his name properly but he ran the Jacob's Ladder for a good deal of time, hosted many tournament in NC, and I think was also involved in play testing.

STAMP · « **Reply #118 on:** January 04, 2010, 07:54:45 PM »

Quote from: Sean on January 04, 2010, 07:47:59 PM

Darcy Abbott

Not sure if I spelled his name properly but he ran the Jacob's Ladder for a good deal of time, hosted many tournament in NC, and I think was also involved in play testing.

I always spelled it D-J...so much easier for me.

Master KChief · « **Reply #119 on:** January 04, 2010, 08:13:34 PM »

i nominate presidentorangebus, and brian cooper.

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #120 on:** January 04, 2010, 08:23:11 PM »

I just don't see how Brian Cooper can beat Rob Anderson...

Master KChief · « **Reply #121 on:** January 04, 2010, 08:44:52 PM »

brian cooper has his own card. rob anderson doesnt.

lightningninja · « **Reply #122 on:** January 04, 2010, 11:03:11 PM »

Rob Anderson created the game. Brian Cooper didn't.

Master KChief · « **Reply #123 on:** January 05, 2010, 12:41:28 AM »

brian cooper burned his game. rob anderson...didnt.

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #124 on:** January 05, 2010, 10:12:10 AM »

Quote from: crustpope on January 04, 2010, 07:39:32 PM

Prof, Is there an open nominaton process here?

Yes the process is that if someone thinks that someone should be considered for the Redemption Hall of Fame, then they PM me with their suggestion (and reason if they like).

Quote from: crustpope on January 04, 2010, 07:39:32 PM

If so when will the nominations be closed?

Since the nomination process is for the vote that will be in summer 2010, the process will remain open for several more months. No hurry. And I do plan to have a bio for each nominee posted as soon as qualified people like Sir Nobody finish writing them.

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Author Topic: Redemption Hall of Fame voting for 2009 (Read 48377 times)