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« on: August 23, 2018, 10:29:48 PM »
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I have been asked by one of my students who were the top 5 active players in redemption by category. It made me think that there is not currently a definitive way to tell. RNRS is not accurate since it is based off the region you play in, and how many tournaments you are able to attend. You could go off the previous Nats, but i feel like that as well is not accurate because you can have arguably the number 1 player in the country have a bad draw in top cut and end up last, or the number 1 and 2 players play first round then that is a little skewed, etc.. etc..

So I have come to you the community to see what you think about rankings in any category. This post is not meant to offend anyone by any means, so please no bashing. I just want to know who the community overall will think are the top 5 in each category. Maybe if this picks up enough steam someone will make an official poll. ;)

So please share you're personal rankings :)

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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2018, 10:34:38 PM »
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Jay Chambers!

4/10 to the face!


But seriously,

It's pretty tough, and super subjective. I would like to think that the Top 5 for T1-2P would include myself and Josiah Beers, but you could easily argue for other players (Including Jay) depending on the criteria you value. Jerome Beers is a fantastic player, but he doesn't have the same community name recognition because he has other commitments that influence the amount of time that he spends in the public sphere of the game. James Roepke was similar years ago.
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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2018, 10:50:06 PM »
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So here are my T1-2P rankings Top 5 active players.
1. Gabe Isbell
2. John Earley
3. Josiah Beers
4. Brian Jones ;)
5. Josh Knitt
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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2018, 10:51:31 PM »
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So here are my T1-2P rankings Top 5 active players.
1. Gabe Isbell
2. John Early
3. Josiah Beers
4. Brian Jones ;)
5. Josh Knitt

Maybe if people knew how to spell my name right I could be #1 :D
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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2018, 10:52:36 PM »
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I couldn't get my list down to five since two of these guys didn't play at Nats this year. In no particular order...

T1 2P:
John E
Gabe I
Josiah B
Josh P
Josh K
Brian J
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2018, 10:53:10 PM »
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So here are my T1-2P rankings Top 5 active players.
1. Gabe Isbell
2. John Early
3. Josiah Beers
4. Brian Jones ;)
5. Josh Knitt

Maybe if people knew how to spell my name right I could be #1 :D

Auto correct lol

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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2018, 11:02:07 PM »
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So here are my T1-2P rankings Top 5 active players.
1. Gabe Isbell
2. John Early
3. Josiah Beers
4. Brian Jones ;)
5. Josh Knitt

Maybe if people knew how to spell my name right I could be #1 :D

Should have taken your wife's last name... ::)
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2018, 12:10:57 AM »
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1. Jerome B
2. John E
3. Josiah B
4. Gabe I
- Top 4 are S Tier
5. Brian Jones
6. Josh Knit
7. JD
8. Josh P
9. Justin A
10. Tyler S
- 5 thru 10 A Tier
11. Kye
12. Jonathan G
13. Jay C
14. Derek T
15. Charles J
16. I’m sorry I don’t know which one of you this but one of the W’s
17. Jeremy C
18. Jeremy S
19. Aiden
- 11 thru 19 B Tier
(I believe all 3 of these tiers have players that can/could/should be able to win a national tournament)

These Rankings are my own opinion and not intended to be offensive to anyone in anyway.  This includes my opinion, recent placing, and personal records.

It’s also possible that I have names and players slipping my mind.
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2018, 12:17:39 AM »
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Is your list general or just T1 Josiah? Either way Justin has an argument for S tier and you're missing Tyler Stevens
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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2018, 12:20:53 AM »
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Is your list general or just T1 Josiah? Either way Justin has an argument for S tier and you're missing Tyler Stevens
Yes it’s t1

Yep I wiffed in Tyler and The Tripplet W’s.

Fixed

Justin hasn’t played type 1 at highest level in awhile. He suffers in my list the same way jerome suffers on yours.
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2018, 12:44:41 AM »
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Justin hasn’t played type 1 at highest level in awhile. He suffers in my list the same way jerome suffers on yours.

Kind of a knock on East Central I guess  ;)
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2018, 01:02:44 AM »
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Is your list general or just T1 Josiah? Either way Justin has an argument for S tier and you're missing Tyler Stevens
Justin hasn’t played type 1 at highest level in awhile. He suffers in my list the same way jerome suffers on yours.

Note that I haven't actually released a list, and specifically mentioned Jerome as having an argument for a top spot.

I also totally just re-read all 7 pages of the Redemption BCS thread from 2011, because this reminded me of it. Good times man. Maybe I'll track down Kirk's list next
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2018, 01:13:16 AM »
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Type 2 list
1. Justin A
2. Josiah B
3. Tyler S
4. Jayden A
5. Noah W
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2018, 01:54:08 AM »
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Type 2 list
1. Justin A
2. Josiah B
3. Tyler S
4. Jayden A
5. Noah W

List is missing duelin'dude
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2018, 02:10:09 AM »
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I also totally just re-read all 7 pages of the Redemption BCS thread from 2011, because this reminded me of it. Good times man. Maybe I'll track down Kirk's list next
What thread are you referring to? I'm not sure what your acronym is... :scratch:
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2018, 02:14:34 AM »
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I also totally just re-read all 7 pages of the Redemption BCS thread from 2011, because this reminded me of it. Good times man. Maybe I'll track down Kirk's list next
What thread are you referring to? I'm not sure what your acronym is... :scratch:

It's in open discussion, which ironically is not open.

Here it is

I also found Kirk's thread here
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2018, 02:31:31 AM »
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Type 2 list
1. Justin A
2. Josiah B
3. Tyler S
4. Jayden A
5. Noah W

I think Andrew H of the frozen north has a good chance of either being top 5 of T2, or close to it. But I don't know enough about Redemption outside my playgroup to know for sure.
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2018, 09:35:20 AM »
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Top 15 T1-2P for 2018

1. Josiah B.
2. John E.
3.Gabe I.
4. Brian J.
5. Josh K.
6. Nic M.
7. Josh P
8. Jay C.
9. Jeremy C.
10. Kye M.
11. Tyler S.
12. Jacob A.
13. Aiden S.
14. Derek T.
15. Charles J.

Bonus 5:
JD C.
Daniel H.
Luke M.
Jerome B.
Jonathan G.

T2-2P
1. Tie - Justin A, Tyler S.
2. Josiah B. (If Playing)
3. Gabe I. (If Playing)
4. Noah W.
5. Jayden A.
6. Jordan A.

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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2018, 09:41:51 AM »
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1. Jerome B
2. John E
3. Josiah B
4. Gabe I
- Top 4 are S Tier
5. Brian Jones
6. Josh Knit
7. JD
8. Josh P
9. Justin A
10. Tyler S
- 5 thru 10 A Tier
11. Kye
12. Jonathan G
13. Jay C
14. Derek T
15. Charles J
16. I’m sorry I don’t know which one of you this but one of the W’s
17. Jeremy C
18. Jeremy S
19. Aiden
- 11 thru 19 B Tier
(I believe all 3 of these tiers have players that can/could/should be able to win a national tournament)

These Rankings are my own opinion and not intended to be offensive to anyone in anyway.  This includes my opinion, recent placing, and personal records.

It’s also possible that I have names and players slipping my mind.

I'm saddened by the lack of Nic Marshall on this list   ;)
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2018, 09:53:51 AM »
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I hope to pull back into that top list over the next couple years.
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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2018, 10:15:08 AM »
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Type 2 list
1. Justin A
2. Josiah B
3. Tyler S
4. Jayden A
5. Noah W
Interestingly I beat Tyler in the last two Nats he was at and I lost to Noah in the last two Nats he was at.  :P

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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2018, 12:27:28 PM »
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Nic M was an oversight on my part I don’t know Him super well and have only played around him a couple times. I’m sure I had some missed names on my list as I built it from my brain alone without looking up results.

***That is very interesting Jayden although even with that knowledge I’m not sure I would flip anyone on my t2 list
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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2018, 01:22:08 PM »
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I also totally just re-read all 7 pages of the Redemption BCS thread from 2011, because this reminded me of it. Good times man. Maybe I'll track down Kirk's list next
What thread are you referring to? I'm not sure what your acronym is... :scratch:

It's in open discussion, which ironically is not open.

Here it is

I also found Kirk's thread here

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1) I still stand by my comments in those threads from years ago.
2) This topic will continue to come up every couple of years. (I have my suspicions as to why.)
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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2018, 02:57:47 PM »
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I missed
Daniel H.
Josh H. On my lists as well
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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2018, 04:24:47 PM »
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My Type 2 list would include Nate Leverson.

 


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