Author Topic: Possibilities in the New Starter (Read 8958 times)

Red Warrior · « **on:** February 27, 2013, 03:42:19 PM »

"Employ the Power of Observation, and You Just May Succeed at a Prediction"

I'd like to get some positive hype rolling about the new starter set. We had a similar discussion on the old board when the last couple starters came out.

Here's some of the things that are fun to mull over:
-Looking at past starters, what 8 Brigades do we anticipate to be in this starter set?
-What reprints do we expect to find? (past examples, correctly predicted, included Tables of the Law).
-What themes might get a "boost" in this starter?
-What new themes might we see?
-What will the packaging be like? (we've had red, blue, green, and maroon schemes)
-Will "I/J" be worse than "E/F" to differentiate?

POSSIBILITIES...

New Themes
Ruth

Themes to Expand
Deacons
Musicians
Persians
Greeks
Heretics
Magicians
Goats of the Bible

Brigades
Teal (Not Yet in a Starter)
Orange (Not Yet in a Starter)
Blue (No Dina, Issachar, Gad, Naphtali...)

Packaging & Design
Starter Cards will have "I/J"
Cards will be noticeably different than Tin "I" cards
There may an additional icon

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #1 on:** February 27, 2013, 05:29:30 PM »

You can add Deacons to the themes that need to be expanded.

As far as the I/J thing, I agree that they will be hard to tell apart with such small print. I also felt that they could conflict with the Tin I Cards, other than additional symbols being present. I still advocate for J/K decks, since they are easy to tell apart and have no conflicts. I tried to tell Rob, but he thought I was kidding.

Red Wing · « **Reply #2 on:** February 27, 2013, 05:37:13 PM »

The theme of Goats needs to be expanded. There are only a few goat cards (Scapegoat and Goat with Horn).

jbeers285 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 27, 2013, 06:46:07 PM »

I'd like to see heretics get some love

Isildur · « **Reply #4 on:** February 27, 2013, 06:48:14 PM »

I would like to point out we can more or less rule out Blue as a possibility in the starter considering how many cards they have gotten since the Tins have been released.

drb1200 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 27, 2013, 06:56:54 PM »

i want to see heretics and some demon/magician work

ChristianSoldier · « **Reply #6 on:** February 27, 2013, 07:17:40 PM »

I'm fairly certain that one deck will be OT and one will be NT (technically the OT good will be paired with the NT defense because the OT offense will be made to fight the OT defense)

So what NT offenses could we see, I'd guess that Peter and Andrew will be paired with Angels (based on another topic that said there would only be so many NT humans or something like that). I would expect them to fight Demons and one of the human NT themes.

I don't really know for the OT deck, but both Judges and Priests were suggested. Priests would pair well with Kings, Judges with warriors.

This is all speculation and we'll have to wait until new information becomes available to know for sure.

Gabe · « **Reply #7 on:** February 27, 2013, 07:54:09 PM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on February 27, 2013, 05:29:30 PM

As far as the I/J thing, I agree that they will be hard to tell apart with such small print. I also felt that they could conflict with the Tin I Cards, other than additional symbols being present. I still advocate for J/K decks, since they are easy to tell apart and have no conflicts. I tried to tell Rob, but he thought I was kidding.

I thought the same thing. Rob has laid out the first 51 cards and I've been helping proof them. That means that we're probably only a couple weeks away from going to the printer!

The I & J don't appear to be very hard to tell apart, at least on a computer screen. Also, the I deck will be easy to differentiate from the 10 tin cards for reasons I cannot fully explain, but in part because the FOOF cards have the FOOF symbol at the bottom in addition to the I.

There are other threads with hints and clues. It would be interesting to see them all quoted together in this thread to see what information has actually been made public.

drb1200 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 27, 2013, 08:07:19 PM »

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Also, the I deck will be easy to differentiate from the 10 tin cards for reasons I cannot fully explain

Deck symbol/icon? Deck marker?

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #9 on:** February 27, 2013, 08:20:11 PM »

Quote from: Daniel on February 27, 2013, 08:07:19 PM

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Also, the I deck will be easy to differentiate from the 10 tin cards for reasons I cannot fully explain
Deck symbol/icon? Deck marker?

A small Genetic Coding device that will activate when the card is first touched. If someone else tries to handle your card, they will receive a minor electric shock. If the first person holds it again, they can access voice-recognition software that will enable certain key words. For instance, one of those words is "trade," where you would then pass the card to who you are trading it to, so that the next person who touches the device will gain the ownership of the card (and thus not get shocked). Other key words include control, capture, and rescue.

Master KChief · « **Reply #10 on:** February 27, 2013, 08:30:27 PM »

It had better voice recognize the Konami code.

Red Warrior · « **Reply #11 on:** February 28, 2013, 09:24:52 AM »

List updated with new information... Deacons, Magicians, Heretics, I've also noted Redemption's flagrant disregard for Goat players... something really must be done there

I will need some help gathering hints. I really haven't seen many (er.. any?) solid hints yet but I don't wander much outside of Rulings and Deck Building. In the past (and I'm sure as we get closer to the release) we've had enough clues to get entire cards figured out. "A+B+C" kind of deduction.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #12 on:** February 28, 2013, 01:29:33 PM »

Quote from: Gabe on February 27, 2013, 07:54:09 PM

Also, the I deck will be easy to differentiate from the 10 tin cards for reasons I cannot fully explain, but in part because the FOOF cards have the FOOF symbol at the bottom in addition to the I.

I'm guessing some full art cards?

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #13 on:** February 28, 2013, 06:57:38 PM »

At Boston nationals, Bryon mentioned wanting to have characters that everybody knows from the Bible for the I/J starter decks. That was way back in Boston, but I think it's probably an idea that they stuck with.

Master KChief · « **Reply #14 on:** February 28, 2013, 10:52:36 PM »

Quote from: Westy on February 28, 2013, 06:57:38 PM

At Boston nationals, Bryon mentioned wanting to have characters that everybody knows from the Bible for the I/J starter decks.

Shamgar reprint FINALLY.

Isildur · « **Reply #15 on:** February 28, 2013, 11:11:40 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on February 28, 2013, 10:52:36 PM

Quote from: Westy on February 28, 2013, 06:57:38 PM
At Boston nationals, Bryon mentioned wanting to have characters that everybody knows from the Bible for the I/J starter decks.

Shamgar reprint FINALLY.

But which art?

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #16 on:** February 28, 2013, 11:26:23 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on February 28, 2013, 10:52:36 PM

Quote from: Westy on February 28, 2013, 06:57:38 PM
At Boston nationals, Bryon mentioned wanting to have characters that everybody knows from the Bible for the I/J starter decks.

Shamgar reprint FINALLY.

I'm not sure how many people know Shamgar, but I would back that 100%.

jbeers285 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 01, 2013, 02:00:58 AM »

Do we know the cost of the new set? Will it be the same as othe starters can I put in preorders?

drb1200 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 01, 2013, 08:44:27 AM »

Quote from: jbeers285 on March 01, 2013, 02:00:58 AM

Do we know the cost of the new set? Will it be the same as othe starters can I put in preorders?

Most likely $10 like every other one.

Arrthoa · « **Reply #19 on:** March 02, 2013, 12:11:36 PM »

Maybe a purple Peter and Andrew since they are the only non purple disciples left besides a hero Judas or reprint of Matthias

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #20 on:** March 02, 2013, 12:19:58 PM »

I think we have enough Disciples. We need to expand the themes that are too weak to stand alone. Magicians are versatile enough because of their dual-brigade format. We need more Deacons, Musicians, Persians, Greeks and Heretics. We could probably use more Canaanites, too.

Josh · « **Reply #21 on:** March 02, 2013, 12:20:48 PM »

Quote from: Arrthoa on March 02, 2013, 12:11:36 PM

Maybe a purple Peter and Andrew since they are the only non purple disciples left besides a hero Judas or reprint of Matthias

I'm guessing we see reprints of Peter and John (as Purple/Green) and Andrew (as just Purple). Andrew will band to Peter, I predict, not the other way around. And Peter and John will probably have clauses in their abilities that don't let them use Hidden Treasures (or at least not play AOCP preblock).

jbeers285 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 02, 2013, 01:20:23 PM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on March 02, 2013, 12:19:58 PM

I think we have enough Disciples. We need to expand the themes that are too weak to stand alone. Magicians are versatile enough because of their dual-brigade format. We need more Deacons, Musicians, Persians, Greeks and Heretics. We could probably use more Canaanites, too.

Canannites need a way to deal with banded hero's they are great against solo rescues but rescues of 3 or more become next to impossible to stop playing solely Canannites

Josh · « **Reply #23 on:** March 02, 2013, 01:29:47 PM »

Quote from: jbeers285 on March 02, 2013, 01:20:23 PM

Canannites need a way to deal with banded hero's they are great against solo rescues but rescues of 3 or more become next to impossible to stop playing solely Canannites

They need a way to deal with CBN banding. Tower and CWD are both great with Canaanites, and these stop plain-vanilla banding.

Isildur · « **Reply #24 on:** March 02, 2013, 01:52:29 PM »

Every defense has something to stop CBN banding its called Household Idols

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